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Esk 🐌⚡💜 (@esk@hachyderm.io)
hachyderm.io@thisismissem @mekkaokereke @dma so stats, based on dec 2024 exit run rate (rounded for simplicity):
#hachyderm costs about $1600/mo to run. this is up somewhat, as we've started to add some infra as part of our resilience plan announced in nov.
we currently have about:
- 55000 users
- 9700 MAU
- 3.7M toots
yielding:
- $.03/user/mo
- $.16/active user/mo
- $.0004/toot
from a raw compute & storage perspective.
again, this is based on 100% volunteer work. today, our mods and infra folk graciously donate their time to keep this thing going.
hypothetically, if we paid them, say, $120k USD/yr (chose this to make the math cleaner), that would add $10k/person/mo to the cost.
if we go with a staff of eight (mix of mod & infra), that adds $80k/mo to the run rate, for a total of $81,600/mo, yielding:
- $1.48/user/mo
- $8.41/active user/mo
- the toot figure is silly, so i'm not calculating it again :blobfoxlaugh:
orders of magnitude of difference.
we could argue about the staff size - i went with roughly what we have today and assumed we made everyone full time so they could hachy for 32/hr/wk vs. calculating the number of hours we actually work. e.g. maybe we could it out at ~$4.50/user/mo, but still a multiple orders of magnitude bump from the raw infra cost.
I think I am ready to give up on this conversation.
The worldviews are too different. It makes no sense to make this distinction about “beneficial to companies” and “beneficial to communities” and it actually seems to me like a misunderstanding of why corporations exist in the first place.
Also, sorry if this is harsh, but you are repeatedly showing an inability of abstract thinking. I talk about the Japanese and your reaction is to ask “where is the Japanese Reddit”? Really? Are you expecting that different cultures will converge to the exact type of equivalent artifacts, just with different colors?
(Anyway, I’d posit that the “Japanese Reddit” is misskey, but I already dread the thought you will respond with some silly pontification about how misskey looks more like Twitter than Reddit)
Maybe it is time for to cut my losses and accept that this whole discussion is a waste of time.