A leader of the Proud Boys who led the far-right organization’s infamous march to the US Capitol on January 6, 2021, was sentenced Wednesday to 17 years in prison – among the longest sentence handed down yet for a convicted rioter.
Joe Biggs was convicted by a Washington, DC jury of several charges including seditious conspiracy for attempting to forcibly prevent the peaceful transfer of power from then-President Donald Trump to Joe Biden after the 2020 election.
The government wanted Biggs to serve 33 years in federal prison. That’s 15 years longer than the longest sentence in a Jan. 6 case to date: the 18-year sentence that went to Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes, also convicted of seditious conspiracy, after prosecutors sought 25 years in federal prison.
This guy used violence and terrorism because he didn’t want my vote to count simply because he didn’t like the way I voted. Fuck this asshole. I hope he commits more felonies in prison and gets more time tacked on. 17 years isn’t enough for this fascist asshole.
He has a young daughter. Poor daughter having such a shit father.
Honestly, she’s probably better off without this failure of a human being in her life.
Now that the seditionists are getting prison terms, VOTE VOTE VOTE. The next Republican president will pardon all of these assholes instantly.
Pardon is the least of our concerns.
The next Republican president will pardon all of these assholes instantly.
Only if they can afford to pay for it. You shouldn’t let them get their hopes up on false promises.
Imagine throwing away your life because a different party is rightfully elected. Your wife is gone. She’s not staying around, because in 17 years you will both be different people. Your kid is gone. You will never know your kid, even when you get out.
It’s stupid, because presidents promise so much, but do so little. You threw away your life for pretty much nothing.
Fucking idiots lol.
They don’t think they did anything wrong.
Don’t make the mistake of thinking people like this can be reasoned with. They can not.
We are better off executing people like this. Prison for life is a close second.
Keeping them alive only emboldens others to follow in their footsteps until they succeed.
No I am not ‘stooping to their level’ in suggesting that traitors are executed.
There’s a reason treason carries the death penalty.
17 years for OrangeLeader, who likely doesn’t even know who Joe Biggs is. He’ll be 55 years old when released (assuming full term).
And hopefully never allowed to own a gun, vote or have internet access
never allowed to own a gun
Somehow I doubt the guys convicted for trying to overthrow the government are real big on following laws.
Who knows, maybe 17 years in the slammer will change that?
Being one of the leaders of the group of people who attempted to overthrow your government and peaceful democratic systems is only 17 years in prison?
Wow just wow
If I were a traitor, I would see this sentence and think, “yeah, it kinda looks worth it, honestly.”
Conservatives get light sentences. It’s just a thing we do here, unfortunately.
So many people get longer sentences for smaller crimes. :(
Light sentence. 30+ would be better for these treasonous scumbags
People fucking died, should be 20 minimum for every asshole present that day
100%
Especially for someone who took an oath. We shouldn’t go easier because of his service, but harder, particularly regarding insurrection and invasion of Congress. He was tip of the spear in this, and led conspiracy with as many people as he could influence.
Now he’ll get to get out of prison and be denied the right to vote lol
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Death by hanging is the most appropriate.
33 years would have been better. A firing squad even betterer.
But nearly 20 years is better than the slap on the wrists that other traitors were getting.
Man is lucky he wasn’t executed.
Has to be war time for that, right?
The Rosenbergs were executed in peacetimes.
Edit:
Currently, under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, 14 offenses are punishable by death. Under the following sections of the UCMJ, the death penalty can be imposed in both times of war and peace
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_by_the_United_States_military
SSG Biggs isn’t eligible for UCMJ under current precedent. He has not served enough time, was medically discharged, and is not eligible for retirement benefits to my knowledge.
https://www.tullylegal.com/resources/articles/can-you-be-charged-under-the-ucmj-after-discharge/
I had thought the person I replied to was referencing treason in the constitution but I may be wrong about war/peace about that.
Could he not be executed as a civilian like the Rosenbergs?
They were tried for espionage. I haven’t been closely following Biggs, but I don’t believe he has this charge
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He doesn’t fit element A, so this whole discussion is moot. Please stop spreading misinformation. Also, if you’re gonna cite the UCMJ, cite the corresponding statute number (Article 94). Also, it helps if you spell UCMJ correctly
it helps if you spell UCMJ correctly
JCUM
Why does he not fit element A? Is it 1 or 2 or 3 or 4; or do you have to fulfill 1-4 to qualify? I don’t know the context behind the excerpt they posted
I don’t know the context behind the excerpt they posted
That’s the problem; they didn’t post the context that would demonstrate he is not subject to the UCMJ as a veteran. Some retirees may be subject to the UCMJ, but in general, the UCMJ applies to active duty military. I’m a veteran with legal experience, not a lawyer, so I’m willing to be corrected with facts from someone who knows and isn’t just repeating bullshit they heard on social media.
The elements of this crime have several different acts which qualify; you don’t have to do all of them to be guilty. The preface (which was cut off) denotes which people are subject to punishment under this law, which would almost certainly NOT include Biggs.
I think I found context:
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SSG Biggs served from 2007-2012: https://www.news-journalonline.com/story/news/2023/04/19/joe-biggs-volusia-proud-boys-leader-will-not-testify-at-his-trial/70126430007/
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UCMJ is for (active) service members: https://www.bileckilawgroup.com/court-martial-defense/articles-of-the-ucmj/article-94-mutiny-and-sedition/#:~:text=Sedition under Article 94 of the UCMJ occurs when a,of that lawful civil authority.
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SSG Biggs does not meet the general retired conditions for UCMJ punishment: https://www.tullylegal.com/resources/articles/can-you-be-charged-under-the-ucmj-after-discharge/
The only piece to this puzzle I didn’t have is in your first link.
Biggs received a medical discharge from the Army when he was 28
Cool, so he didn’t have 20 years AND he isn’t retired; he was medically discharged. These two factors absolutely remove him from consideration of punishment under the UCMJ. Nice detective work there!
You should take the “(Ret.)” out behind his name so as not to mislead though.
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Joe Biggs: Fucked around. Found out.
Bye bye! Have fun in general pop, fuck-head!
Joyous news, thank you!
Fuck all these people, every last one of them. Keep the convictions rolling. They each deserve it tenfold.
Where’s your pumpkin spice daddy now Joe?!
With any luck maybe you’ll share a cell
Not so proud anymore, eh?
