• jimbo@lemmy.world
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    This looks like it was written by someone who looked up stereotypes of autism.

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      I mean, these are the commonly-heard and/or understood things. Even autistic people are still trying to get together and figure out what they are statistically. It really is hard when the word “autism” is used as a euphemism for general intellectual disabilities, or when tons of people keep claiming they have it only so they can feel special.

      People like me have all these symptoms and more. Trichotillomania is a life-ruiner for me, and I know a lot of other autistic people deal with that and other sensory issues too; but people just don’t know about those symptoms yet.

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    See, this is why I keep insisting that the worst part of my ND is the bureaucracy. Convincing government pencil pushers and other instances that no, I really can not function in a society built for and run by unstructured, unfocused, unreliable, indirect, eyeball gazing madmen, and I absolutely need assistance or you’ll have to shove me into a psych ward.

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      As a person with adhd, I same-feels this so much. Like, the system to get meds where I live seems purposely designed to prevent adhd people from accessing meds

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        We can thank all neurotypical junkies that like the side effects of adhd medicine like increased heart rate and jitters.

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        I felt this when I was on Lexapro for my severe depression. I gave up on jumping through hoops and weened off because I didn’t also need micro anxiety attacks from feeling like I was gonna run out of meds while waiting on bullshit red tape theatrics.

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    Me watching a documentary about Papuan jungle tribes: “Wow their rituals are baffling and strange, but Im sure they make sense in the context of their culture.”

    Me watching people sing happy birthday: “Wow their rituals are baffling and strange, but Im sure they make sense in the context of their culture.”

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    This is why I keep telling my daughter that she shouldn’t try to be like the “normal” kids in school because she’s not doing anything wrong and they’re doing a lot of things wrong. She’s never going to be like them anyway, and that’s a good thing.

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    Oh gosh, when people try to change topics without a definitive closure to the previous topic it’s so frustrating. I’m fine with conversation, but if folks would please just assimilate structure within their minds, prior to speaking, it would be great all around for everyone.

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      I really get triggered by this, people hate it when I want to “resolve” the last topic before moving forward. Especially in a work setting

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        I’m not part of this community but as a person that people interrupt all the time, I feel a connection ♥️ Let me at least finish my thought before veering in another direction, please!

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          Sorry as someone with ADHD and Autism, my need to have all the facts but not being able to wait for people to eventually get there is sometimes near impossible and is a constant internal struggle. This is especially bad/difficult at work.

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        As if we don’t want to finish topics. There’s just too many of them to keep track of!

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      Its human nature to be very us vs them. Everyone has an “other” they would rather see removed or oppressed. The most inclusive person ever wouldn’t mind Nazis being removed if only for purely rational reasons.

      What I’m saying is your “us and them” is the most Neurotypical thing to do.

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        Spends entire conversation talking about how they’re so much better than normies because they don’t do irrational things

        Proceeds to justify elitism with irrationality

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        Its human nature to be very us vs them.

        It doesn’t mean it’s good and that we shall just embrace it and kill each other for minor differences.

        What I’m saying is your “us and them” is the most Neurotypical thing to do.

        It seems you misunderstood me - I don’t mean “autistic people are more into this mentality”, but rather “surprisingly, despite suffering from exclusions out of neurotypical society, many autistic people support this kind of thing when the roles reverted”. Hope it makes sense!

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      I think you’re confused - it’s ableist society that others and marginalises us, we’re just finding our people and identifying with each other.

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    When I learned that lying was not only the expected, but required, my communication in the workplace improved. It’s sad but it is what it is.

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      A lot of non verbal communication happens through the eyes and surrounding muscles, it’s useful to understand people’s state of mind when they speak to also understand what they’re saying non verbally.

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        i’ve read that 90% of social communication is non-verbal. It’s awkward because you know you are being studied and not just the content of your words.

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          If it can reassure you, it’s not an active thing, our brain just sees signs and does the interpretation of how the person feels all by itself, only people who really studied non verbal language can push it further and start to analyse little things like pupils becoming larger even when lighting doesn’t change just because the person is interested in what you’re saying or people playing with their hair more than usual when attracted by the other person…

          I had a communication class in university and the teacher was a psychologist specialized in non verbal communication, it was super interesting the few times she talked about it!

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            If it can reassure you, it’s not an active thing, our brain just sees signs and does the interpretation of how the person feels all by itself

            This varies from person to person. Personally, I’m alexithymic. I had to study body language and facial expressions actively in order to stop being completely blind to other peoples’ emotions/mental states. I solely relied on verbal communication to interpret peoples’ intentions for the first 25 or so years of my life. Made a lot of shit really hard!

            Doing much better these days though.

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              Oh yeah sorry, I should have specified that I was talking about the majority of the population where it’s something that just happens without thinking about it unless you’re looking at very specific cues…

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            Except there is much more “truth” in nonverbal communication. It’s much easier to “lie” with words than it is with body language.

            Most people don’t really even make an effort to control their presentation when communicating, except in the sense that they may try to control their emotions.

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        You mean if you actually understand that language. Otherwise its just wild guesses (which is also the case for those who „know“ the language).

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          I’m just explaining the reason why people do it and no it’s not just wild guesses as many emotions are communicated extremely clearly through non verbal language. If you’re trying to do a deep analysis then sure there’s a lot left to interpretation, but it’s the same thing with verbal language and implied meanings…

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      yeah, i don’t want to stare into somebody’s soul just to order food. insane.

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      Eye contact is fucking LOUD. I can’t hear you or think when staring at your eyeholes.

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      I think it’s what is remembered. Autistic people can remember enormous amounts of inane detail about a subject they hyperfocus on, but can’t remember who they met 2 mins ago. Neurotypical people can remember names, but not the electrical wiring diagram of a toaster they had 20 years agos. So they say “autistic people have bad memories.”

      Anecdotes: my neighbor growing up was autistic and he could navigate any major city off the top of his head. Ask him to give directions from one address to another and he’ll do it faster than MapQuest, all from memory. He could do this at 7. He couldn’t remember to ask for food when he was hungry or remember a lot of his homework details, but damn he knew some other stuff.

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        Neurotypical people can remember names

        I think I’m “nuerotypical” but I often forget people’s names. I think that’s pretty…typical as well.

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      The two people i know with autism can remember a few categories of things. They remember those things very very well (different for each of them) but … then they cant remember anything else.

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    When I read the symptoms of Autism, at least half sounded like someone else’s problem.