Delaware State Police have agreed to pay $50,000 to resolve a federal lawsuit filed by a man who said troopers violated his constitutional rights by preventing him from warning motorists about a speed trap
Pretty telling that they’re not really about safety when officers will speed after someone at 100+ cause they got their feefees hurt in the exact same area the speed trap is.
I mean if the police wanted to enjoy their job they each would get a day to park a cruiser up the street … and then change into civilian clothes and sit in a lawn chair up the street drinking a beer smoking a cigar holding a sign saying “speed trap ahead” and then calling in anyone that ignores it with it being tracked by the squad car’s camera.
that would be how you police if you want to have fun.
(this is my most brilliant idea ever. and i yield it freely to law enforcement)
People hate it, but as someone who leans towards fuck-cars, well sign-posted automated traffic cameras remove this problem. Stop cops from chasing people in cars like some dumb movie, and endanger both parties by parking on the freeway - just mail them a ticket.
So an automated speed trap is the solution? That’s just a flat tax. And for the wealthy it’s not even an inconvenience, just the cost of driving as they please.
it is, yes. I don’t think that’s an issue because a lot of countries that use it also couple it with a system that if you continuously break the law there are further sanctions
the residents and the police are both happy with this solution and it exactly describes my proposal, but it seems like you’re using this as proof it’s a bad idea?
the only criticism is someone saying “it’s a bit of a money grab,” which - yeah, isn’t that the point of capitalism? So is selling bread, water, electricity, internet, books…
but why I’m proposing it is because it decreases confrontation - in the context of someone being extra judiciously killed by police, so - which would you rather lose, $100? or your life?
It does nothing to increase safety. Mailing someone a citation after the fact does nothing to stop the crime as it is being done. And, as is the case in Lindale, it doesn’t even make any money as a large majority of the recipients just throw them away.
i dont mean to be rude but are you absolutely sure you’re speaking from a place of “I want to increase road safety in general with methods that actually work” and not from a place of “I don’t want to pay a $100 fine?”
Are you not reading what I said? It doesn’t make the area safer. Receiving a ticket WEEKS after the fact does nothing to prevent or curtail the dangerous behavior WHEN IT IS OCCURRING. And it doesn’t make the actual street any safer because people slow down for that 100yd stretch then speed back up. Never mind the fact that a huge number of the tickets go straight into the trash.
If the reason to have speed traps is to get people to reduce their speed then that guy was literally getting people to reduce their speed.
The police need reformed because they try to get people to do bad as a way of making money.
That makes society literally worse instead of better.
Pretty telling that they’re not really about safety when officers will speed after someone at 100+ cause they got their feefees hurt in the exact same area the speed trap is.
I mean if the police wanted to enjoy their job they each would get a day to park a cruiser up the street … and then change into civilian clothes and sit in a lawn chair up the street drinking a beer smoking a cigar holding a sign saying “speed trap ahead” and then calling in anyone that ignores it with it being tracked by the squad car’s camera.
that would be how you police if you want to have fun.
(this is my most brilliant idea ever. and i yield it freely to law enforcement)
People hate it, but as someone who leans towards fuck-cars, well sign-posted automated traffic cameras remove this problem. Stop cops from chasing people in cars like some dumb movie, and endanger both parties by parking on the freeway - just mail them a ticket.
So an automated speed trap is the solution? That’s just a flat tax. And for the wealthy it’s not even an inconvenience, just the cost of driving as they please.
It doesn’t have to be. Speeding tickets probably should scale with wealth.
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I kinda feel like speeding tickets don’t interfere with the goal of getting drivers off the road, probably even help a little.
it is, yes. I don’t think that’s an issue because a lot of countries that use it also couple it with a system that if you continuously break the law there are further sanctions
It’s not a flat tax you clown. Just don’t speed
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I don’t see why you can’t do both.
Speeding tickets are a regressive tax. And they won’t get people to hate cars, they’ll get people to hate government.
they are a tax on speeding and that’s a good thing because speeding causes greater strain on infrastructure.
also, everyone saying “but rich people won’t be as affected” — but rich people aren’t the majority and this issue occurs with the majority.
Lol. Let me introduce you to Lindale, OH.
the residents and the police are both happy with this solution and it exactly describes my proposal, but it seems like you’re using this as proof it’s a bad idea?
the only criticism is someone saying “it’s a bit of a money grab,” which - yeah, isn’t that the point of capitalism? So is selling bread, water, electricity, internet, books…
but why I’m proposing it is because it decreases confrontation - in the context of someone being extra judiciously killed by police, so - which would you rather lose, $100? or your life?
It does nothing to increase safety. Mailing someone a citation after the fact does nothing to stop the crime as it is being done. And, as is the case in Lindale, it doesn’t even make any money as a large majority of the recipients just throw them away.
which study are you referring to?
this one claims it increases safety https://www.rospa.com/media/documents/road-safety/speed-cameras-factsheet.pdf
i dont mean to be rude but are you absolutely sure you’re speaking from a place of “I want to increase road safety in general with methods that actually work” and not from a place of “I don’t want to pay a $100 fine?”
I’m speaking from a place of “I drive through Lindale and see this with my own eyes”.
so we agree its a good thing?
from your source:
or are you arguing speeding in a 25mph zone is a good thing?
Are you not reading what I said? It doesn’t make the area safer. Receiving a ticket WEEKS after the fact does nothing to prevent or curtail the dangerous behavior WHEN IT IS OCCURRING. And it doesn’t make the actual street any safer because people slow down for that 100yd stretch then speed back up. Never mind the fact that a huge number of the tickets go straight into the trash.