Not to be an ass here but the article states pretty clearly in the first line that it was due to the surgery wait time. The pool party is only tangentially related.
Literally none of it has to do with peer pressure or pool parties generally, and I’m not sure why you think the article should spend any time on it.
He was experiencing severe gender dysphoria, which was made worse by the situation making him more aware of his chest and knowing it was going to take ages to get surgery. Nobody is saying it was a great decision that everyone should do.
If you think I’m going to find this cute you’re going to have to try it on someone else.
Because idk maybe he wanted for one single second to feel happy and comfortable in his own body? Maybe the fear of missing out on an endless string of events and friends and time enjoying life drove him to try doing it himself? Are you under the impression this was the first time he had been invited to swim somewhere? Are you under the impression this is the first time he was ashamed and repulsed by his own body, and had to confront the reality that the health care system was failing him and he had to let precious years of his life waste away when a routine simple procedure could alleviate his suffering?
Do you think trans people are fucking stupid or something? How do you figure peer pressure factored into this? Do you think all the dysphoria just disappears if he doesn’t go to the pool party? I understand that this is outside your experience. Time to listen.
I’m in the US. This is New Zealand. I’m less concerned about the health care situation. I assume it’s superior to ours.
I have questions about the pool party though.
It seems like it must’ve been far more than just a pool party, since self surgery felt like a better option than not going
It was removed because a mod or someone thought it was transphobic.
While I disagree, I can see why someone would misunderstand what I was saying.
I myself didn’t fully understand what I was thinking. But after using my one week ban to analyze my own thoughts on the article, I’m going to make one more attempt to articulate them. Hopefully I’ll do a better job this time.
The long wait times or high expense for surgery, is a problem that effects many trans people in New Zealand.
The dysphoria is something they all deal with.
Using those two issues that trans people have in common, as a complete explanation for this guys quite uncommon attempt at self surgery, seems obviously incomplete to me. This guy did something unusual. It seems likely, there’s an equally unusual aspect to it. To me, that would be worth exploring. But both the article, and everyone here as far as I’ve read, seems content to simply assume that these common experiences are enough to explanation his uncommon decision.
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Not to be an ass here but the article states pretty clearly in the first line that it was due to the surgery wait time. The pool party is only tangentially related.
Tangentially related in that bathing suits are revealing. The timing may have something to do with his decision
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Literally none of it has to do with peer pressure or pool parties generally, and I’m not sure why you think the article should spend any time on it.
He was experiencing severe gender dysphoria, which was made worse by the situation making him more aware of his chest and knowing it was going to take ages to get surgery. Nobody is saying it was a great decision that everyone should do.
If you think I’m going to find this cute you’re going to have to try it on someone else.
“A health system that works like people expect”
“10 to 12 year wait times”
Sure buddy.
Because idk maybe he wanted for one single second to feel happy and comfortable in his own body? Maybe the fear of missing out on an endless string of events and friends and time enjoying life drove him to try doing it himself? Are you under the impression this was the first time he had been invited to swim somewhere? Are you under the impression this is the first time he was ashamed and repulsed by his own body, and had to confront the reality that the health care system was failing him and he had to let precious years of his life waste away when a routine simple procedure could alleviate his suffering?
Do you think trans people are fucking stupid or something? How do you figure peer pressure factored into this? Do you think all the dysphoria just disappears if he doesn’t go to the pool party? I understand that this is outside your experience. Time to listen.
Why was this comment removed
It was removed because a mod or someone thought it was transphobic.
While I disagree, I can see why someone would misunderstand what I was saying.
I myself didn’t fully understand what I was thinking. But after using my one week ban to analyze my own thoughts on the article, I’m going to make one more attempt to articulate them. Hopefully I’ll do a better job this time.
The long wait times or high expense for surgery, is a problem that effects many trans people in New Zealand.
The dysphoria is something they all deal with.
Using those two issues that trans people have in common, as a complete explanation for this guys quite uncommon attempt at self surgery, seems obviously incomplete to me. This guy did something unusual. It seems likely, there’s an equally unusual aspect to it. To me, that would be worth exploring. But both the article, and everyone here as far as I’ve read, seems content to simply assume that these common experiences are enough to explanation his uncommon decision.
I’d like to see more from us.