A set of utilities to help bring content and users from legacy social media networks into the fediverse - GitHub - mushroomlabs/fediverser: A set of utilities to help bring content and users from l...
Questionable legality aside, who wants this? I thought we created these federated platforms to get away from all that garbage. The last thing I want is more bots spamming content here (not to mention a lot of the content on the sites it’d be pulling from are spam/bot content in the first place).
This is less about the people who are already here (though it can be helpful to them as well) and more about the people who are still there because they claim they stick to reddit because they can’t find their content here.
The last thing I want is more bots spamming content here.
What is “here”? This system works by making a mapping between subreddits and specific lemmy communities. So if I am running this tool and all I want to mirror the content of /r/python into !python@programming.dev, this all it’s going to do. I hope that no one will be trying to run this with the largest subreddits, because if they went on to do it would be inviting themselves to be blocked/defederated.
I would put money on the fact that the mods of that python community would not want that bot to be run. As others have mentioned, we want to have our lemmy community garner a community and culture organically, completely detached from any sort of roots in a different social media site. I obviously cannot stop you from running this bot in your own community, but I, personally, am blocking any sort of reddit bots or other connector bots.
I really don’t believe rapid growth/engagement injection is a priority for Lemmy. I’d rather focus on cultivating small communities that can engage in thoughtful and meaningful debates on posts that wanted to be shared by posters, and not generated by bots.
The conversation is not “generated by bots”. The conversation happened by actual people just on a different place, and this tool is a way to try to bring some of these people here, where the environment is less toxic and gives power back to the people.
I disagree here. The original poster and conversation was started on another platform without any regard or consideration for a platform like Lemmy. They posted it on Reddit, for Reddit, and for Reddit’s culture. Not us. Any replies made on Lemmy would not go to the OP on Reddit. Thus, as far as I care, it’s a post made by a bot. Any emotion or care towards the intended destination community has been detached the moment it was taken by a bot and put somewhere else.
If someone asks a question on /r/python, and it gets posted here on Lemmy, why would I bother replying? It’s not directed towards us, and the OP wouldn’t ever see it, so it’s just spam at that point.
I do agree that there is some truth to “The Medium is the Message”, but I honestly don’t see that much of a difference in medium between social media networks that are very similar in their design.
It’s not directed towards us, and the OP wouldn’t ever see it.
I have more than a handful of people already that signed up to !emacs@communick.news after I saw a question they posted on /r/emacs and I sent them a DM asking them to post their question here as well. There is nothing stopping this tool (it’s actually my next item to work on) to streamline this process.
Judging by others’ comments and upvotes on my comments, I don’t think I’m alone here in my reasoning, but if there are others that don’t care about the cross-contamination, then I guess we will agree to disagree. I just know that I personally am blocking communities that cross-contaminate, and I am personally looking for strictly Lemmy user to Lemmy user discussions.
Questionable legality aside, who wants this? I thought we created these federated platforms to get away from all that garbage. The last thing I want is more bots spamming content here (not to mention a lot of the content on the sites it’d be pulling from are spam/bot content in the first place).
Anyone who still has to regularly visit Reddit because of all the niche subreddits that have great communities there but 1 post per month here.
This is less about the people who are already here (though it can be helpful to them as well) and more about the people who are still there because they claim they stick to reddit because they can’t find their content here.
What is “here”? This system works by making a mapping between subreddits and specific lemmy communities. So if I am running this tool and all I want to mirror the content of /r/python into !python@programming.dev, this all it’s going to do. I hope that no one will be trying to run this with the largest subreddits, because if they went on to do it would be inviting themselves to be blocked/defederated.
I would put money on the fact that the mods of that python community would not want that bot to be run. As others have mentioned, we want to have our lemmy community garner a community and culture organically, completely detached from any sort of roots in a different social media site. I obviously cannot stop you from running this bot in your own community, but I, personally, am blocking any sort of reddit bots or other connector bots.
I really don’t believe rapid growth/engagement injection is a priority for Lemmy. I’d rather focus on cultivating small communities that can engage in thoughtful and meaningful debates on posts that wanted to be shared by posters, and not generated by bots.
The conversation is not “generated by bots”. The conversation happened by actual people just on a different place, and this tool is a way to try to bring some of these people here, where the environment is less toxic and gives power back to the people.
I disagree here. The original poster and conversation was started on another platform without any regard or consideration for a platform like Lemmy. They posted it on Reddit, for Reddit, and for Reddit’s culture. Not us. Any replies made on Lemmy would not go to the OP on Reddit. Thus, as far as I care, it’s a post made by a bot. Any emotion or care towards the intended destination community has been detached the moment it was taken by a bot and put somewhere else.
If someone asks a question on /r/python, and it gets posted here on Lemmy, why would I bother replying? It’s not directed towards us, and the OP wouldn’t ever see it, so it’s just spam at that point.
I do agree that there is some truth to “The Medium is the Message”, but I honestly don’t see that much of a difference in medium between social media networks that are very similar in their design.
I have more than a handful of people already that signed up to !emacs@communick.news after I saw a question they posted on /r/emacs and I sent them a DM asking them to post their question here as well. There is nothing stopping this tool (it’s actually my next item to work on) to streamline this process.
Judging by others’ comments and upvotes on my comments, I don’t think I’m alone here in my reasoning, but if there are others that don’t care about the cross-contamination, then I guess we will agree to disagree. I just know that I personally am blocking communities that cross-contaminate, and I am personally looking for strictly Lemmy user to Lemmy user discussions.