• willybe@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    The conservatives voted for body autonomy and ban mask mandates… and then banned body autonomy for transgendered children

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      Children can’t vote but their parents can and their base fear government telling them how to raise their children. This strategy forces liberals into a no win situation were they will always look like their goal is to brainwash their kids. That fear is something a lot of fence sitters already fear.

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        Brainwashing kids by not injecting the state into private medical decisions?

        I don’t get it, but fear is not rational.

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          It is a type of reasoning, just a bit twisted. By giving kids the ability to transition or seek medical interventions, you’re also taking away the parents ability to control their kids, forced by the state which is a quick jump on the conclusions map to the other belief they’ve set up previously which is the state is brain washing kids to become trans through the state run education system.

          So in their view, the liberals are forcing trans ideology on children while trying to remove parental rights.

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                No. Responsibility is not ownership. You have an obligation to your kids, not the other way around. If the kid doesn’t want to tell you a profound secret about who they are, then it’s time to reflect on your parenting, not to get the government to force teachers to rat them out.

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      Not sure about the transgender drugs, but depending on how they approach “race based hiring” that might actually win them some votes.

      There are a lot of people who have had issues with that, including people who are visible minorities but are concerned that people will consider them a “minority hire” rather than one based on skill/merit.

      I can understand how that’s be pissed off, as the ones I know or worked very hard to obtain their positions and apparently found themselves beside some people who very obviously… did not and felt that race might have be an influential factor in hiring/promotion.

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        I lost a job offer, way back, and I was told on the sly by a trusted insider it was a demographic issue.

        It stings. I know my capabilities and the post was a dream job that suited my positives perfectly. And I lost it because I was the wrong sex/race/ability/whatever.

        but even in the pit of my own trivial self-pity I’m not gonna revenge-vote for people who’ll fuck everything else up just so snowflakes like me don’t need to feel that sting. I’m a grown-ass adult with only moderate entitlement.

        The math doesn’t work. I’m a big fan of jobs going to the most qualified, period, but this is a baby/bathwater thing and it’s just not worth it.

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          The question is how many other people might vote on this or other similar stuff. Lemmy is still mostly populated by people who probably are a bit more intellectual (and willing to think beyond a single issue) but out of the overall voting pool…?

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    From a party of babies who are afraid of a needle, they sure seem to care about what other people do with their bodies.

    I thought they were for freedom?

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      They want freedom to do what they want, not freedom for you to do what you want. To be fair, we are all a bit like that.

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    Despite warnings that these policies could be weaponized by their political opponents to hurt their standing among more moderate voters, a strong majority of the delegates on hand voted for a motion that stated children should be prohibited from gender-related “life-altering medicinal or surgical interventions,” and for another that said Canadians should have “bodily autonomy” when it comes to vaccines and other health treatments.

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    I really hope this is the stuff that turns the squishy middle against them. I know some trans kids and I’m scared to death of shit like this for them.

    But I also know most people see trans kids as weird and scary as a concept, and are ready to go along with this fear.

    Listen to the kids.

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    It has always been my dream as a white man to apply to a job created for a young black man from a low income family. Some day I will be able to do so without fear of persecution.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    Conservative delegates voted Saturday to add some new social conservative policies to their policy playbook, including a proposal to limit access to transgender health care for minors and do away with vaccine mandates.

    While some members warned these policies could be weaponized by their political opponents to hurt their standing among more moderate voters, a strong majority of the delegates on hand voted for one motion that stated children should be prohibited from gender-related “life-altering medicinal or surgical interventions,” and another motion that said Canadians should have “bodily autonomy” when it comes to vaccines and other health treatments.

    About 69 per cent of the delegates agreed that young people should be barred from gender-affirming care, which sometimes includes hormone-related treatments that delay puberty or promote the development of masculine or feminine sex characteristics.

    The vaccine issue sparked comments about events that transpired during the COVID-19 pandemic, including high-profile freedom rallies.

    About 68 per cent of delegates voted on the motion to “affirm Canadians have the freedom and right to refuse vaccines.”

    Discussion about the motion focused on Jordan Peterson, a professor with a large following in right-wing circles, who was ordered by the University of Toronto to take social media training in the wake of complaints about his controversial online posts and statements.


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    To whoever went through and downvoted everyone: we see you.

    Your kids will hate you and it will be your fault.