Allowing criminal activity to go unmoderated on the platform. Including but not limited to fraud, drug trafficking, cyberbullying, organized crime and promotion of terrorism.
true but if its truly end to end encrypted it cant be moderated.
between this and mega its clear they want your files easy to reach and access, privacy and security be damned.
the internet should be free for the same reason we have the 2nd amendment - its necessary for exposing and opposing tyranny.
so kill telegram and watch criminal orgs and militant groups just spin up their own servers or use encrypted radio or just encrypt messages themselves to send through any other platform.
its the cops and feds job to investigate these people, they didnt need a fucking all seeing AI to do it in the prior century and they dont now.
i mean seriously what happened to sting operations? its so damn easy to catch predators n shit on discord, and these telegrams are easy enough to join. do actual detective work smfh .
Just because it is most of the time bullshit, it doesn’t mean that is not a thing ever. The “think of the children” doesn’t imply that legit application of child-protection laws are not a thing.
Telegram is for example known for Russian military bloggers, which are, in fact, promoting terrorism.
During the whole ISIL thing, Telegram was a prominent way to radicalise and recruit new terrorists, at least here in Europe. Islamist extremists still often use Telegram these days.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Even as a general user I’ve come across illegal shit on Telegram, so they clearly aren’t even attempting to moderate. It would be absolutely zero surprise that obvious terrorist organizations like ISIL would be using the platform for some communication and recruiting. And that doesn’t even get into subjective shit like Russian aggression and attacks on civilians in Ukraine, which many would consider terrorist attacks.
The usefulnes of a system is often measured by the amount of illegal shit it can handle. Nobody would really use a stick or a fire if it required a law enforcement officer standing behind you the whole time.
On the other hand, Telegram was always intentionally not secure, nor private. So it’s not that thay can’t comply. They just decided not to (as far as we know).
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This is not really about moderation. The europeans just want to evasdrop on the russians.
What is the charge? For operating a messaging platform? A succulent private messaging platform?
Allowing criminal activity to go unmoderated on the platform. Including but not limited to fraud, drug trafficking, cyberbullying, organized crime and promotion of terrorism.
Woosh
Sadly, the guy in that video passed away recently.
Oh damn. He did? I just watched a video about him in modern times.
Yeah his death is why people have been talking about him over the last week or so.
true but if its truly end to end encrypted it cant be moderated.
between this and mega its clear they want your files easy to reach and access, privacy and security be damned.
the internet should be free for the same reason we have the 2nd amendment - its necessary for exposing and opposing tyranny.
so kill telegram and watch criminal orgs and militant groups just spin up their own servers or use encrypted radio or just encrypt messages themselves to send through any other platform.
its the cops and feds job to investigate these people, they didnt need a fucking all seeing AI to do it in the prior century and they dont now.
i mean seriously what happened to sting operations? its so damn easy to catch predators n shit on discord, and these telegrams are easy enough to join. do actual detective work smfh .
Telegram chats aren’t end-to-end encrypted by default, and group messages cannot be encrypted. Just saying.
You know the accusations are bogus when you see this.
Just because it is most of the time bullshit, it doesn’t mean that is not a thing ever. The “think of the children” doesn’t imply that legit application of child-protection laws are not a thing.
Telegram is for example known for Russian military bloggers, which are, in fact, promoting terrorism.
During the whole ISIL thing, Telegram was a prominent way to radicalise and recruit new terrorists, at least here in Europe. Islamist extremists still often use Telegram these days.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Even as a general user I’ve come across illegal shit on Telegram, so they clearly aren’t even attempting to moderate. It would be absolutely zero surprise that obvious terrorist organizations like ISIL would be using the platform for some communication and recruiting. And that doesn’t even get into subjective shit like Russian aggression and attacks on civilians in Ukraine, which many would consider terrorist attacks.
The usefulnes of a system is often measured by the amount of illegal shit it can handle. Nobody would really use a stick or a fire if it required a law enforcement officer standing behind you the whole time.
On the other hand, Telegram was always intentionally not secure, nor private. So it’s not that thay can’t comply. They just decided not to (as far as we know).
- - tinfoil hat on - -
This is not really about moderation. The europeans just want to evasdrop on the russians.
- - tinfoil hat off - -
ahhh, I see you know your digital crimes well!
I hope you realise that the comment you replied to is really just a reference to the Succulent Chinese Meal video.
I understand this reference
Most unexpected reference I’ve ever seen.
The reference on wikipedia, for my fellow people out of the loop
As someone who did not. What is it referencing here?
Edit: Thanks for the replies. The video was funny, lol.
https://lemm.ee/comment/14303070
See @TWeaK@lemm.ee Woosh link in the comments below