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      Hate and fear of the unknown is the driving force behind conservative voters; greed for the political class.

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        Also the subconcious knowledge that they are where they are because their ancestors exploited other humans and the only way to not feel guilty about that is by continuing to see those other humans as “lesser” than them so it was okay what there ancestors did so it’s also fine if they are doing it

        because once you accept that your country is as wealthy as it is because of exploitation you have to decide if you are going to keep your lifestyle and continue that exploitation or if you are realizing that something like that is unacceptable and that that means that you likely have to cut down your lifestyle a bit

        conservatives are all about “nothing should change” but that fundamentally means continuing the exploitation and if you are aware of that and want to stay conservative then the road to racism is very short

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      It’s the tradition silly. They just want the good old days. They’re just conservatives.

      Why were there only 22 nazis on trial in Nuremberg? Because the dock could only fit 22 people. How did the denazification go? Of the 1.3million nazis to be prosecuted it was only a fraction of a fraction. Germany now is not what it used to be then, but there are ‘conservatives’ among the good German people.

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        I’m an immigrant in Germany. I’m fair skinned, tall, and I speak German pretty well. The number of times I’ve been told that I’m not an immigrant is insane. “Immigrants” include people with Turkish names whose families have lived in Germany for four generations, but not me, who doesn’t even have permanent residency yet.

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          This reminds me of North Americans of Italian descent who join white supremacist groups when just a few decades ago they were seen as “non-white” by those same groups. Useful idiots.

          At least you know where you stand and why they attempt to exclude you from the outgroup.

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    Maybe they should ban far-left organizations indoctrinating children with marxist ideology as well? It’s not like communism killed millions or something…

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      Why is it that whenever someone says “Nazis are bad” there are always weirdos crawling out of the woodwork to say “what about communism?”?

      It’s like clockwork.

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        Because Communism overall killed more people than Nazism. The hypocrisy of banning nazi symbols while allowing soviet ones is just unbearable.

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          You are just going to have to live with the fact that you’re the weirdo on this. People do not see Nazism and communism as similar or comparable. Nazism has discrimination and extermination of the “other” as core tenets of the ideology, communism is an economic model that simply does not have those elements no matter how desperate you are to assign them to it.

          Authoritarianism is bad. But communism is not authoritarian. Governments calling themselves communist have become authoritarian and committed atrocities. But as much as weirdos like yourself like to deny it, governments capable of genocide are also capable of lying about being communist.

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            Weird how he just… disappeared instead of admitting you may have a point. How long until he makes the same argument in another thread?

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            I mean most of the examples of “communism” we have are pretty damn authoritarian. The big two, the USSR and China, are all in on that shit, peaking with probably the mad regime of Stalin. Both are also pretty bad at communism.

            But every third nation on Earth is currently run by a right wing hardcore authoritarian of one sort or another, from petty dictators to (increasingly few) monarchs. It’s the only form of government right wing politicians ever really pay attention to and the only solution right wing politics ever proposes.

            (Yes, even the "Libertarians".)

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          Communism overall killed more people than nazism

          This claim likely comes from the black book of communism, which includes lowered birth rates as deaths. Birth rates sink when women gain more freedom and education, so it should absolutely not be considered a bad thing, let alone a death.

          Further, if the calculations used in that book were applied to capitalism, capitalism would have caused more deaths.

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      If someone tried to minimize Nazism by comparing it to Marxism in front of me, I’d be sure to break their nose on the spot.

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        Schools. And they teach kids things like math, history, problem solving, and introducing them to critical thinking skills. Oh the horror!

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      @mcgravier Bist du blod oder was? Germany, where one half of the country lived under communist oppression until 1989 (?), still thinks it’s better to actively fight far right radicalism (you know, fascists). Because they are seen as a threat. If communists where an active threat, (like in the '70’s) they would be targeted too.
      Your both side-ism is false.
      But don’t worry authoritarian communism is stupid too. Lenin and Hitler waxed the same pole.
      @Geert