• Lauchs@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    What new settlements happened thete in the last year? You are conflating an increase in tensions and conflict with expansion.

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        3 hours ago

        From the article:

        In the past year, about 4,555 Palestinians have been displaced in the West Bank after Israeli forces demolished their homes.

        Now, I’m no mathematician but surely you understand that’s orders of magnitude fewer than have been displaced in Gaza, right? Please?

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          2 hours ago

          Yes, because violence in the West Bank has always been lower-level than the violence in Gaza. I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make is.

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            1 hour ago

            Always does not mean “since I started paying attention” but regardless…

            Anyway, you’re so close! Let’s tey the socratic method, given that the West Bank has been an Israeli target for years, why do you think the violence has been at such a lower level than Gaza since the rapes and murders of Oct 7th?

            And why did that coincidentally change days after the election, with Smoterich now directing “the start of professional work to prepare the necessary infrastructure to apply Israeli sovereignty over Judea and Samaria.”

            If you’re ruling out Biden etc, was it just a wild miracle of timing?

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              Always does not mean “since I started paying attention” but regardless…

              Huh? Are we even talking about the same conflict? This has been the case since 2005 when Israel disengaged from Gaza.

              why do you think the violence has been at such a lower level than Gaza since the rapes and murders of Oct 7th?

              Uh… Because there’s no resistance worth mentioning in the West Bank? They don’t need to do much for their colonial project in the West Bank, but if settlers tried entering Gaza they’d just be shot.

              And why did that coincidentally change days after the election, with Smoterich now directing “the start of professional work to prepare the necessary infrastructure to apply Israeli sovereignty over Judea and Samaria.”

              It didn’t change, but that aside he might’ve felt emboldened to say it out loud, but we still don’t know if the rest of the Israeli government will allow that. In case they do anytime soon, the only conclusion would be that there were plans for such an action from before the election.

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        21 hours ago

        You are arguing with absolute liars. It’s like people only thinking this mess accelerated under Biden (who is the most paid politician by AIPAC) is just a coincidence. As if Israel hasn’t been expanding into some of the most important Palestinian cities while the world focuses on Gaza.

        It’s the same people who say what can Biden possibly do while funding their military operations. Trump sees the praise Biden is getting from Congress and actually thinks Biden must have been doing something right. Yet, somehow there was a good choice for people who want to see Palestine prosper (Those who pretend that Harris would do better because she doesn’t shout her plans out like some cliché comic book villain).

        But let’s call Trump a huge liar and let’s take his word at face value when it’s convenient for us. I’m sure the Democrats who never learn a thing will be excited to lose the next election as well. Obviously, Trump won’t be a good president but Democrats lost because they were seen as slightly less evil but with no charisma.

        It’s not us, everyone else is just stupid. - Democrats