• SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    17 hours ago

    How is it human nature when it’s literally the system that is the problem? This is not about individuals, but about systems, specifically the profit motive

    Competition for the most profit under capitalism is literally the driving factor for all of this. If you don’t do it, someone else will take your place and do it instead

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      17 hours ago

      You’re missing the point entirely. Which was that the current system is just letting the worst of human nature run wild

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        14 hours ago

        (Not who responded to you, but) I agree with you when you put it as “the worst of human nature.” I take issue with the idea that all of human nature is trash.

        The systems we live in absolutely bring out the worst in people because it drives desperation. Desperate people will do what they must no matter how they hurt people, and the whole “hurt people hurt people” then runs rampant.

        But human nature also contains the helpers, community, love, and so much more. We need systems that encourage those things, not to write off all our problems as just how we are.

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          12 hours ago

          Yeah I am with you actually. I should’ve written “can be trash” really. there’s a lot of good in people but the worst people tend to seize power unfortunately. Hence the shitty systems that make even good people into worse people