We throw around the word “elite” x or “elite” at y very often. But I do wonder when we say that what is the minimal this person should be averaging in such categories to be considered so. There are also other factors too, for example, Josh Hart is an elite rebounder given his height. He averaged between 7-8 boards last season at 6’5. But for a center to be an elite rebounder for me, they should average 10. What are some elite stats you consider to be elite at the bare minimum?
Every NBA player is elite… according to r/nba
Freethrows: 90+%
That would mean only Nash, Curry, and Mark Price qualify for a career. That’s ultra-elite.
I would say anything over 87% can be considered elite for FT%
I would say above 88% is elite for FTs. Hard to say ppl like Reggie Miller, Ray Allen, KD or Steve Nash weren’t elite at FTs.
You can’t measure passing abilities by just looking at the number of assists, you have to actually watch the game. Their teammates could just be ass. You’re not going to rack up the numbers if your teammates aren’t knocking down open looks
Passing abilities are 100% eye test
Tyus Jones. Dude doesn’t play enough minutes to rack up gaudy numbers but he is one of the most elite passers in basketball. Extremely smart with the ball in his hands.
it doesn’t say to measure it. It says to create a minimally accepted number
That’s literally measuring
Depends on minutes. Kevon Looney is absolutely an elite rebounder but also plays around 24 minutes a game, so he averages under 10 rebounds a game.
However, if you correct for playing time he averaged 18.3 rebounds per 100 possessions which is more than Jokic’s 17.2
per 36/75/100 stats can be misleading, however. stats and volume are not linear. not to say Looney isn’t a fantastic rebounder, but your second point is a bit questionable because more of Jokic’s possessions are going to include ones in which he’s more exhausted due to how many minutes he plays and the difficulty of his role.
I think once you get past a threshold they’re useful. Like comparing a 24 MPG to 34MPG guy is fine, but comparing 12mpg to 30 isn’t.
Elite shooter: 45% from 3 on 14 attempts per game Elite Rebound: at least on defensive rebound and 4 offensive rebounds a game Passer: at least on season without turnovers Finisher: puts a player I don’t like on a poster
Then there’s no elite shooters in the game
Shooting = 60% TS or higher. Preferably higher but there’s other consideration Passing = 8 assists per game Rebounding = 10 rebounds per game
I think stats almost always rely on context. Above 90% free throw shooting is elite I guess.
But for like 3 pt shooting, I don’t think it’s enough to say a certain % at a certain number of attempts. I think you also have to know if guys can shoot above the break or off the dribble. Unless you’re being very specific and saying “elite at the corner three”. In which case it’s maintaining 45% after 500 attempts? (I think I once read a study that says a players %s start to normalize after 500 attempts)
All depends on context