Toyota, Honda, Nissan and other Japanese automakers are serious about rolling out battery electric vehicles to catch up with the world’s frontrunners like Tesla and BYD

“We love battery EVs.”

Takero Kato, the executive in charge of electric vehicles at Toyota, said that not once, but twice, to emphasize what he considers the message at this year’s Tokyo auto show.

It’s a message ringing clear at the Tokyo Mobility Show, which will run through Nov. 5 at Tokyo Big Sight hall and where battery-powered electric vehicles are the star at practically every booth.

  • skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de
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    11 months ago

    Even if they mothball an EV early on, at least in the US, auto manufacturers are required to produce parts and provide maintenance for 10 years of the vehicle’s life. That and Toyota isn’t Tesla, they want to stand behind their brand.

    I can see where they’re going with hydrogen. With projects like that Australian seawater hydrogen project making hydrogen generation “free”, it’s just a matter of time before it becomes cheaply accessible. A fuel cell/battery hybrid that could be filled up in minutes would be much more analogous to how gas cars currently work, versus the heavy flaws in current EVs like limited range, heavily degraded winter performance, and rapidly aging batteries in Nissans specifically due to lack of proper thermal management. Statistics are showing 57% of current EV owners don’t even want to buy an EV for their next car.

    Deploying a hydrogen storage network would also not tax the already fragile power grids as an EV charging network would. Economically, having fuel truck networks, fueling stations, etc. continue to exist, would make hydrogen likely less disruptive to the existing model of transportation economics in countries like the US. Jobs could be retained.

    The 2023 Toyota Mirai, a hydrogen fuel cell hybrid available now, has an estimated 402 mile range on a full tank. Tesla Model 3 estimates 333 miles of range and have also been caught lying on their range gauge so that shouldn’t even be trusted.

    Countries like the US are just pushing EV tech so heavily because it is available “now” and they think we can capitalism our way out of climate change. The more boring methods like finding ways to continue utilizing existing vehicles but limit driving frequency with augments like actual public transportation don’t interest the shareholders.

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      11 months ago

      having fuel truck networks, fueling stations, etc. continue to exist, would make hydrogen likely less disruptive to the existing model

      That’s crazy:

      — US gas 140,000 EV chargers and it’s nowhere near enough, even with most charging fine at home

      — US had 57 places to fuel hydrogen, all in California

      — we don’t even have a cost effective way to produce green hydrogen yet, most will continue to come from fossil fuels for decades

      And you think it’s cheaper and easier to build entire industries across the US and worldwide, for a fuel source still dependent on fossil fuels, at a cost probably in the trillions of dollars? And it’s desirable to save large oil companies trying to hold desperately to their existing business?

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      11 months ago

      The generation of Hydrogen was never the hardest problem.

      Compression, storage and transportation - those are the big problems.

      How is the car driver in Kansas refilling their hydrogen powered vehicle without major efficiency losses?

      The barriers haven’t changed much in decades, and cyclically someone pretends those are all minor.

      The new play is: Maybe Ammonia?