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jeffw@lemmy.worldM to News@lemmy.world · 2 years ago

Lewiston shooting suspect found dead, law enforcement officials say

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jeffw@lemmy.worldM to News@lemmy.world · 2 years ago
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Lewiston shooting suspect found dead, law enforcement officials say: Live updates
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Follow NBC News' coverage for live updates and developments about the shootings in Lewiston, Maine, that killed at least 18 people.
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    GVA thinks someone stubbing a toe at a firing range is a mass shooting so whatever

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      That’s an exaggeration, but you’re not far off.

      They count any shooting with 4 or more injured as a “mass shooting”.

      I doubt that most people hear the phrase “mass shooting” and think “People at a party having too much to drink, get in an argument, the argument turns into a fight, guns are drawn, and 2 people on one side get shot and 2 people on the other side get shot.”

      Example from my own back yard so to speak… 3 dudes from Texas show up for a marijuana buy from two brothers in Oregon. Buy goes bad, 2 Texans are killed, both brothers are killed, one dude walks away.

      https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2021/06/two-portland-brothers-two-marijuana-buyers-die-in-gun-battle-during-attempted-drug-ripoff.html

      GVA DOES count that as a mass shooting. I don’t, for the simple reason that while those people were armed, and DID end up shooting 4 or more people, nobody went down there with guns with the INTENTION of shooting a bunch of people.

      For me, and I wish more people defined it this way, a mass shooting is when one or more individuals show up armed in a populated area with the express intention of shooting as many people as possible.

      That sort of shooting is FAR rarer. But nobody makes money off keeping people scared if that’s the definition.

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        The definition of mass shooting shouldn’t detract from the fact that 500+ shootings 4+ injured is too many

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          500+ shootings in a country with 330 million people and 400 million guns is a rounding error.

          Last year there were 42,795 fatal car accidents, we have 233 million licensed drivers. 85 times more than shootings with 4 or more injured.

          https://www.usatoday.com/money/blueprint/auto-insurance/fatal-car-crash-statistics/

          https://www.statista.com/statistics/191653/number-of-licensed-drivers-in-the-us-since-1988/

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            What’s the number one cause of death for children in America? Is that a rounding error?

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              “In 2021, there were 2,571 child deaths due to firearms”

              https://www.kff.org/mental-health/issue-brief/child-and-teen-firearm-mortality-in-the-u-s-and-peer-countries/

              2,571 / 330,000,000 = 0.0000077909

              Yeah, pretty much.

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                Jesus, at least you’re open with your psychopathy.

                3k dead kids in a “first world” country, to something so easily avoided, is monstrous.

                Happy to see you say it loud and proud, fuck those dead kids. Makes it easier to identify y’all.

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                  Each death, individually, is a tragedy. Collectively? On a population of 330 MILLION? It’s literally NOTHING. That’s how statistics work.

                  In the big list of the top 59 ways Americans die, accidental gunshot is #59, fewer than those killed by cops, btw, which is #58, homicidal gunshot is #31 and suicidal gunshot is #21.

                  https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/death-index-top-50-ways-americans-die/

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                    Crazy, compare that to every other developed nation.

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