Please, tell me how “paying for hardware costs is enough”…

  • seathru@lemmy.sdf.org
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    6 days ago

    So? Do, or don’t. Either their service provides people with enough value to donate to keep it running, or it doesn’t and goes under.

    Altruism doesn’t pay the bills; but it doesn’t hurt to ask. Can’t blame them for that.

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      Either their service provides people with enough value to donate to keep it running

      You know what also works like that? Any other traditional business operation.

      I am saying that since 2022: we only have a shot at this succeeding if we all start putting something at stake.

      • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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        6 days ago

        Are yall not sponsoring this project on patreon or otherwise?

        I pitch in something like 1-2 bucks to desalines and a few bucks to .world every month.

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          You are the exception, and you will find out that even the most prolific participants here claiming that $5 per year is enough to cover the hardware costs, so he doesn’t see any reason to give more than that.

              • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
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                Shit aint free.

                I mean when we were over at (the bad place), people were literally donating monthly to pay for server costs. (the bad place) in the early days was basically one giant instance.

                except it didnt have a working video player. for-fucking-ever.

                so I donate a bit to my mortal enemy @desalines and a bit to lemmy.world to keep the project going. Maybe 5 bucks a month between the two?

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              For lemmy.world / mastodon.world including some of the smaller instances we host, it’s like 0,06 euro per active user per month. If every active user would pay 2 Euro per year that would be enough to cover hosting costs. If every active user would pay 1 euro per month, I could quit my dayjob and focus on the Fediverse fulltime.

              (Sidenote: Stux and I created the non-profit Fedihosting Foundation which owns lemmy.world … but finances are still separate for his and my instances)

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              6 days ago

              The list of statements where you have the chance to share your values is still unanswered.

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      What do you mean “so?” Maybe it does provide enough value. Not enough people know that they have to pay real money to keep the servers running. Thus the request…

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        6 days ago

        I meant it as “So what if they ask for help? Do, or don’t (donate)”

        The initial post came off to me as a dig at the admin for openly asking for money.

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      The early internet was so good because it mainly consisted from academics or people willing to share knowledge and exchange it. Modern internet is dying because of the fact that most of users are leeches and don’t contribute to the equation. Most tech youtube channels are dying because there is no gratification for content creators, it takes a lot of time, money to produce the content and they get no benefit. The end effect is they shut the whole thing down, thank you for the “service”, you only contribute to the internet “quality” downfall

      • seathru@lemmy.sdf.org
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        5 days ago

        I think you’re misreading my reply (or i worded it poorly). I agree with you 100% and do contribute to the instances I use and the content creators I watch.