China and Europe seem to be taking a more pragmatic approach to their relationship as the Trump administration alienates US allies, but big differences remain over trade and Ukraine.

  • Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org
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    5 days ago

    Tensions between China and Europe aren’t all that high compared to what they could be. I think even maintaining the status quo is gonna be a challenge.

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      5 days ago

      I’ve read on a few websites specializing in geopolitics that the trump administration is attempting something called a ‘reverse nixon’, to try and drive russia and china apart. Is this a factor in the EU trying to form a closer relationship with china?

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        4 days ago

        Trumps adoration and wish to mimic anti-democratic dictators has long preceded the closing ties of China and Russia.

        Geopolitical analysts are trying to rationalize the actions of a megalomanic narcissist who has no interests beyond making himself look good. It is a case of “If Your Only Tool Is a Hammer Then Every Problem Looks Like a Nail”.

        This is a case for a psycoanalyst, not geopolitical analysts. Trump is not trying to do some grand strategic reverse-Nixon, he just has a bro-crush on Putin and wants to be like him and be his friend.

        EU and China are just acting as two rational geopolitical actors: “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”. It should be noted that EU doesn’t have any territorial beefs with China, it is all economics and trade issues. Which both are interested in solving or hitting pause on while they deal with Trump who contests territorial claims of both EU and China.

        If anything, Trump is doing an inverted-Nixon, pushing US allies closer to China, and pulling Russia closer to US. Not in the interests of USA, but in all in an attempt to make himself look good and to live up to his dream of being a land-conquering dictator like Putin.

        That my analysis anyway.

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          4 days ago

          In ‘The Foundation Of Geopolitcs’ by Aleksandr Dugin, he says

          The People’s Republic of China, which represents an extreme geopolitical danger as an ideological enemy to the independent Russian Federation, “must, to the maximum degree possible, be dismantled”.

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

          The Ukraine war has forged a relationship between russia and china that the USA wants an end to.

          Just trying to understand what’s going on and Europe’s geopolitical maneuvers.

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            4 days ago

            You won’t find what Trump is thinking by analyzing the works of Alexandr Dugin, nor the intentions of Europe/EU. Please don’t read that extremist propaganda, it will not do you any good. He is probably clinically insane.

            While Putin does like some of what he is writing, I am absolutely certain he is cherrypicking what he likes from it and ignores the rest. But Putin is probably also clinically insane, so that doesn’t really help…

            Also, Putin and by tradition Russia considers EVERYONE an existential threat, unless they completely submit to Russia and Putin. The Russians have a saying: “Russia only has two allies, the army and the navy.” That probably tells you everything you need to know.

            What is more interesting to me is what China thinks of Russia and EU. If you can find a credible work on that, I’d be interested.

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            4 days ago

            @zaxvenz@lemm.ee

            What are you doing here?

            Alexandr Dugin is a strong supporter of Vladimir Putin who is often referred to as “Putin’s brain”. Putin’s politics and his propganda content echoes Dugin’s “philosophy” to a large part. Dugin vocally supported the Russian annexation of Crimea in 2014, and since 2022 has supported its full invasion of Ukraine as representing a battle against “absolute Evil, embodied in Western civilisation, its liberal-totalitarian hegemony and in Ukrainian Nazism”.

            What this man is saying is the worst of extremist and derailed propganda.

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              4 days ago

              Hotznplotzn wrote:

              “What are you doing here?”

              I’m trying to analyse our adversaries. Dugin says China must be dismantled aswell as he believes they are a grave geopolitical threat to Russia.