China and Europe seem to be taking a more pragmatic approach to their relationship as the Trump administration alienates US allies, but big differences remain over trade and Ukraine.
China and Europe seem to be taking a more pragmatic approach to their relationship as the Trump administration alienates US allies, but big differences remain over trade and Ukraine.
@poVoq@slrpnk.net
First, not all here are supposedly aware that this media outlet is propaganda, but even if so, there is no need for this garbage imo. And, second, the same user cited Alexandr Dugin, one of Putin’s most derailed propaganda figures (who supports Russia’s invasion because, according to Dugin, all Ukrainians are ‘nazis’ - Dugin is one of the Russian figures from whom this and other repugnant slurs come from, used by Russia to justify the war).
That aside, you and me (together wirh a couple of others if I remember that right) had a discussion in another thread some time ago. Back then you, poVoq, argued to explicitly allow propaganda, so I am -unfortunately- not surprised here.
The argument was more nuanced. Using moderation to suppress differing opinions (which, yes, tend to be influenced by propaganda), usually just results in people switching to pure propaganda bubbles, which is much worse.
Pointing out here in the comments that SCMP is a Chinese propaganda outlet is fine. That way even people unaware of it previously can come to their own conclusions.
‘More nuanced’? You even got offensive as practically all others in this thread back then had a different opinion. People switch to pure propaganda bubbles anyway, whether or not you are explicitly fine with Chinese and Russian propaganda. There’s is no excuse for that.
I didn’t get offensive, but yes I noticed a certain group-think here when it comes to such things. But that is why places like lemmy.ml that enforce similar group-think via moderation actions are worse than what we are trying to do here.
You are explicitly accepting here the worst of disinformation (in violation of the comm’s rule, btw). And you have been offending people, just read your comments back then.
There is a difference between propaganda (which is usually true but with omissions and spins), and “missinformation” (like for example posting false personal details about an attacker in the immediate aftermath to spurr racial hatred), and no the above is not “the worst of”, but it seems the kind you especially don’t like 🤷
And please don’t make accusations without backing that up with actual links. I am not aware of offending anyone here in this community, and it certainly wasn’t intentional.