Fucking good. Trudeau made a campaign promise not to go through with purchasing those F-35 planes to begin with and went ahead with it anyway. The deal should have been off the table to begin with, especially with the shit build quality these things have for the insane price point they have.
All that money could be put towards lifting up our fellow Canadians in homelessness and addictions treatment, especially those who are indigenous.
especially with the shit build quality these things have for the insane price point they have.
Eh, the cost isn’t incomparable to other fighters, and they’re way way more maintainable and rugged than older stealth aircraft. It’s just that they’re pretty tied to America.
Is that the case? I’ve been hearing a lot about how unreliable the F-35s have been with it being hard to even get them off the ground half the time due to the maintenance needed on them.
I’ve been hearing a lot about how unreliable the F-35s have been with it being hard to even get them off the ground half the time due to the maintenance needed on them.
The F-35 requires roughly the same amount of mmh / fh as the Gripen, exclusive of engine and air-frame. What’s been hampering the readiness rate of the F-35, which is below that of the Gripen, is the lack of maintenance depots. This was always going to happen because Lockheed planned from the beginning to sell the planes first and build the maintenance depots later. The F-35 sold so well that it outstripped the capacity to build the maintenance depots which created a lack of on-hand parts and technicians. This is turning around and readiness rates are improving as Lockheed slowly gets caught creating maintenance yards.
The Gripen has lower sales (that’s not a knock on it) which made it easier for Saab to keep up on the maintenance side. They also try to get maintenance depots setup simultaneous with deliveries. IMO they’ve done a better job of managing things.
For comparison, the F-22’s skin had a reputation for scratching from a rough touch and straight-up dissolving in spilled jet fuel (or even water). Stealth aircraft from before that were basically allowed to be usually-hangared money pits because they only needed to fly occasionally, to collect intel or end the world or whatever.
The process of designing the F-35 was insane, slow and cost billions and billions of dollars, but that’s because the requirements given were over the top. They asked for three planes in one (an Osprey, an F-16 and a B-2), and eventually actually got something like that.
The other guy says they come out about the same as a Gripen, which would be remarkable because the Gripen is designed to be run out of a forest during a Russian invasion of Sweden, and not stealthy at all. Maybe it’s more with the engine and air-frame. Either way, it’s decent, and they like to brag about how almost all the parts can be reached without disassembly (they’re “one-deep”).
F35 is a terrible plane. Requires Lockheed consultants to maintain, even for US military, which is expensive. No manuals are provided with plane. Requires permission to turn on the electronics for every flight. Has lower flight time/readiness than any other western aircraft. No actual Canadian mission requires a bombing focused air fighter. Only middle east type force amplification from static airbases (not aircraft carrier capable). Pure BS of defending Arctic from complete non threat in next 30 years is a mission for navy, missiles and drones that have longer lives and much cheaper, and better at bombing focused missions.
We need to get a refund for the crap we bought already, or sell them to a sucker like KSA, or US enemy.
Are you even Canadian? That’s a pretty dense comment to make.
Indigenous people are much more susceptible to homelessness and addictions due to generational trauma that the government has inflicted on them and their communities through residential schools and the Sixties Scoop.
So yeah, sorry for being racist by… reads notes… acknowledging issues that negatively affect other races.
What are you talking about? We have known for decades that indigenous communities in North America have way higher rates of addiction/alcoholism/etc. in their communities. It’s a huge fucking problem and they generally want help from the federal government
I understand how what they say could come across as racist, but you need to go look up this issue because it’s a very serious matter
The Canadian constitution recognizes both equality of all races and past injustice that may require reconciliation. This is why programs that put extra help to traditionally disadvantaged groups are legal and accepted.
Fucking good. Trudeau made a campaign promise not to go through with purchasing those F-35 planes to begin with and went ahead with it anyway. The deal should have been off the table to begin with, especially with the shit build quality these things have for the insane price point they have.
All that money could be put towards lifting up our fellow Canadians in homelessness and addictions treatment, especially those who are indigenous.
Eh, the cost isn’t incomparable to other fighters, and they’re way way more maintainable and rugged than older stealth aircraft. It’s just that they’re pretty tied to America.
Is that the case? I’ve been hearing a lot about how unreliable the F-35s have been with it being hard to even get them off the ground half the time due to the maintenance needed on them.
The F-35 requires roughly the same amount of mmh / fh as the Gripen, exclusive of engine and air-frame. What’s been hampering the readiness rate of the F-35, which is below that of the Gripen, is the lack of maintenance depots. This was always going to happen because Lockheed planned from the beginning to sell the planes first and build the maintenance depots later. The F-35 sold so well that it outstripped the capacity to build the maintenance depots which created a lack of on-hand parts and technicians. This is turning around and readiness rates are improving as Lockheed slowly gets caught creating maintenance yards.
The Gripen has lower sales (that’s not a knock on it) which made it easier for Saab to keep up on the maintenance side. They also try to get maintenance depots setup simultaneous with deliveries. IMO they’ve done a better job of managing things.
For comparison, the F-22’s skin had a reputation for scratching from a rough touch and straight-up dissolving in spilled jet fuel (or even water). Stealth aircraft from before that were basically allowed to be usually-hangared money pits because they only needed to fly occasionally, to collect intel or end the world or whatever.
The process of designing the F-35 was insane, slow and cost billions and billions of dollars, but that’s because the requirements given were over the top. They asked for three planes in one (an Osprey, an F-16 and a B-2), and eventually actually got something like that.
The other guy says they come out about the same as a Gripen, which would be remarkable because the Gripen is designed to be run out of a forest during a Russian invasion of Sweden, and not stealthy at all. Maybe it’s more with the engine and air-frame. Either way, it’s decent, and they like to brag about how almost all the parts can be reached without disassembly (they’re “one-deep”).
F35 is a terrible plane. Requires Lockheed consultants to maintain, even for US military, which is expensive. No manuals are provided with plane. Requires permission to turn on the electronics for every flight. Has lower flight time/readiness than any other western aircraft. No actual Canadian mission requires a bombing focused air fighter. Only middle east type force amplification from static airbases (not aircraft carrier capable). Pure BS of defending Arctic from complete non threat in next 30 years is a mission for navy, missiles and drones that have longer lives and much cheaper, and better at bombing focused missions.
We need to get a refund for the crap we bought already, or sell them to a sucker like KSA, or US enemy.
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Are you even Canadian? That’s a pretty dense comment to make.
Indigenous people are much more susceptible to homelessness and addictions due to generational trauma that the government has inflicted on them and their communities through residential schools and the Sixties Scoop.
So yeah, sorry for being racist by… reads notes… acknowledging issues that negatively affect other races.
What are you talking about? We have known for decades that indigenous communities in North America have way higher rates of addiction/alcoholism/etc. in their communities. It’s a huge fucking problem and they generally want help from the federal government
I understand how what they say could come across as racist, but you need to go look up this issue because it’s a very serious matter
The Canadian constitution recognizes both equality of all races and past injustice that may require reconciliation. This is why programs that put extra help to traditionally disadvantaged groups are legal and accepted.