Any reason these renewed drives from Amazon would be a bad choice? Planning on getting 4 of them to build a NAS and maybe hosting jellyfin.
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I just bought (4) 8tb drives renewed from Amazon for $65 a piece. They are fine so far in my nas but each has 50k hours lol.
I inherited 6x WD Red 3TB drives from work recently and they all have over 60k hours lol, none of them have any smart errors!
Aren’t surveillance-rated drives a terrible investment for any long-term storage system (long-term being more than 3yrs)
You’d think so, but I’ve got a 2nd hand purple 4tb surveillance something and it’s been fine for years. I’ve also a bunch of 2nd hand Enterprise(?) 500Gbs that are older than Noah.
That said I keep anything important on a new 4Tb Red
This is a good point. Surveillance drives are built with the expectation that they will be writing in video data from a security camera system 24/7, so they’re optimized for a constant data write and less so for read, and really not intended for general-purpose random read/write actions. It’ll still work, but not as well as a NAS drive would.
I’ve bought a couple of refurbs off Amazon before. It’s pretty much what you expect. Cheap, but they are not going to last long. I never used them in anything less than a RAID 6 setup, and they were the first drives to fail and be replaced. They can get you over the hump of having to order a whole set of new drives at once, but you shouldn’t use more than a few and start replacing them as soon as you can because they may cascade under the load of rebuilding your array.
The one unexpected thing is the drive runtimes were wiped. I could verify by polling the last SMART runs which contained the runtime, and they were in the 4-5 year range.
As long as you buy drives shipped by Amazon, you get their full 30-day return policy. Just run a long SMART test when the disks arrive.
The one unexpected thing is the drive runtimes were wiped. I could verify by polling the last SMART runs which contained the runtime, and they were in the 4-5 year range.
That seems shady. Are you saying that when you ran a new SMART test the drive reported almost no runtime, but the backlog tests showed the actual runtime?
so it might not be amazon selling these, secondly if I would sell you a car for $99 what do you think? sure this Tesla for 99 seems legit, lets do it?
I don’t see any comments mentioning this, but you want to stay away from surveillance drives for any other use. They’re really only designed for NVR purposes. For multi-purpose or NAS use you want NAS drives.
No, no, no, no. Nope. Heck no. Amazon packaging is terrible for electronics.
I want my drives to last 5 - 8 years at least before I even think about checking SMART stats.
Storage is 101% “you get what you pay for” status in my mind.
This isn’t true, but I guess it’s a good thing so I can always get white labelled drives if everyone thinks that.
Search my profile, I made a post about white labelled drives.
Yea never complain about the people that won’t buy cheap. It just makes it cheaper with less demand :)
But you can use that in your favor though. If you run large raid arrays with decent amounts of redundancy, and the right software stack the loss of any one or even two drives really doesn’t impact the entire system.
You should anticipate that your storage devices will fail. Drives are consumables. The system that controls the drives should be built for long-term reliability via redundancy. The actual drives should not be expected to have long-term reliability.
serverpartdeals
That’s who I use. I’ve only had one go bad and they swaped it with no issues and paid for shipping.
And like that, I went broke…
I’ve ordered a few refurb drives from Amazon. It’s hit or miss. I thoroughly test the drives. And definitely have a had to return a couple. But it’s Amazon. It’s super easy for returns.
I have a Synology loaded with the enterprise-grade 14TB version of those and so far, have had no failures. I have started swapping out 14TB drives for my offsite backup as well. I just have one of those as I only do those quarterly, but again, no issues.
Someone is about to get a bag of rocks on their porch
Same latency
/i’ll let myself out
Meanwhile, in Europe we’re shucking 10TB disks for 300 Euro -+ :|
Bro, don’t.
I have been meaning to write to Amazon and congress about the Chinese network equipment on Amazon that just suddenly sprung up.
I don’t even buy Apple stuff on Amazon. I buy it through Best Buy.
Suddenly sprung up? Almost everything on Amazon is from China anyway just like all the stuff in best buy. As far as government backdoors I don’t know how much Congress will care unless it is cutting into their income stress.
Amazon refurbished have worked well for me. I have 24 in 2 NAS systems. 60 days uptime only 1 has died. Got another one and resilvered. No down time.
Those look like Seagate. I stick to HGST/WD because Backblaze charts say so.
Please do not buy used storage unless you do not care about your data.
