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    2 days ago

    Leftists are not liberals. The things that matter to leftists are different than the things that matter to liberals. We have different goals. The things liberals advocate for do not move us towards our goals. We have no reason to support you.

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        5 hours ago

        If you want to save the planet, that takes abolishing the capitalist system. Neither major party is going to implement real measures to fix that. Harris was running on stronger borders too so I really don’t think its a reach to say we’d be getting ICE raids and destroyed lives under her.

        In the words of Malcolm X: “If you stick a knife in my back 9 inches and pull it out 6 inches, there’s no progress. If you pull it all the way out, that’s not progress. The progress is healing the wound…”

        Give me someone that wants to heal the wound. I’ll vote for them.

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      And yet many of us leftists are still calling you out. If anyone needs any more evidence of this, look up who voted for her the most. Black people, particularly black women, Jewish people, and the LGBTQ+ community. Now, who wants to guess which groups have been the loudest voices against capitalism in the US? Who has been the most politically active?

      Its generally been us in the communities who are going to die.

      But if these communities tend to be liberals then I will gladly be a communist liberal.

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        Yes, and leftists don’t put the same value in identity that liberals do. We obviously care to some extent, we believe in national liberation, and historically the communist movements have supported black people in the US for example.

        You know what those communists didn’t do though? Vote for liberals.

        Also if you’re trying to say that minority groups are the most politically active…I’d agree. That’s why leftist groups are represented by large amounts of those people.

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        I will gladly be a communist liberal.

        It is impossible to be a communist/anarchist/socialist/leftist liberal, because communism/anarchism/socialism/leftism are diametrically opposed to liberalism.

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          Lol If leftism is telling the groups who have historically been at the forefront of everything, including fighting against capitalism, that they need to shut up cause theyre just liberals, then I love liberals.

          If liberalism is worrying about the communities who get harmed the most, then Im a liberal

          But Im so glad to have seen over this last year that leftistism is apperantly thinking of us the same way Republicans do.

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            I didn’t realise I was talking to the incarnate avatar of “marginalised community”. Are Palestinians included in your metaphysical essence?