Why is it so hard?

  • HubertManne@piefed.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    15
    ·
    3 days ago

    even the inventor was taken back by the waste of it all. Him and the guy who started bitcoin I think are the inventors with the most regrets.

        • Devadander@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          8
          ·
          2 days ago

          While I agree he had a massive negative impact on the world, I don’t read any remorse in that biography, instead even after he personally got sick from lead poisoning and recovered, he still pushed for leaded gas. He just sucks

      • HubertManne@piefed.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        3 days ago

        It was dynamite right. Honestly I don’t see him as having as much regrets. As sucky as the war usages were it still helped in building and mining and such.

      • HubertManne@piefed.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        2 days ago

        Its unclear. There is a japanese name associated with it but its assumed I believe that its not the persons actual name.

          • Dasus@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            24 hours ago

            You know the story about the Somali pirate stock market?

            Think that, but times 1000.

            Bitcoin is mostly used for illegal shit. Mostly drug trades, but anything else criminal as well. Want to buy guns, whores, even a hitman? Bitcoin.

            The drug trade basically created the value for Bitcoin. And then the traders who already had lots of it when people began hyping Bitcoin became richer and richer.

            Which annoys me a whole fucking ton, because at one point I had over 120 Bitcoin in my possession. Should’ve saved at least one and I wouldn’t be in this problem. Well, honestly, I would, because I’d have probably sold it at 500 or something.

            Back when I had then they were worth 1e a piece. Ordered me some drugs, so I never bought them as an investment, just as currency.

            Tldr Anyway yeah investing in Bitcoin is essentially funding drug cartels.

              • Dasus@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                19 hours ago

                Source for what? For my personal experiences? For me having purchased drugs?

                Or the amount of marketplaces, interactions in the marketplaces, and their values?

                We can’t quantify the size of the illegal drug trade, but it’s in the hundreds of billions, if not trillions.

                Hell, if only any of those marketplaces were open anymore, I’d have had probably now worth thousands in Bitcoin because a portion of them remained after my shopping. I didn’t have a local Bitcoin wallet, the stores had wallets you’d transfer into.

                But yeah they switch so often, after either cutting and running or being caught.

                But yeah, that’s what made Bitcoin a bit more mainstream, but the value radically shot up once people began seeing it as something worth investing in, since the value was growing relatively fast even without there being investors.

                I don’t know what you’re asking a source for, exactly.

                With a world GDP of US$78 trillion in the same year, the illegal drug trade may be estimated as nearly 1% of total global trade.

                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_drug_trade

                And those are honestly very conservative (and bad) guesses. Of course it’s much larger. You can see if you google it, none of the guesses are even similar to each other, lol.

                Also, remember there’s a hugely popular show called “how to sell drugs online - fast” or smth. It’s just everywhere. But people pretend it isn’t. It’s fascinating to me, the willfull ignorance.

                We have to legalise all drugs to actually get them under regulation.

                • null@slrpnk.net
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  14 hours ago

                  Source for what?

                  Your thesis:

                  Bitcoin is mostly used for illegal shit.

                  I’ve bought a ton of drugs with cash. Is cash mostly used for illegal shit?

                  • Dasus@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    arrow-down
                    1
                    ·
                    14 hours ago

                    I’ve bought a ton of drugs with cash. Is cash mostly used for illegal shit?

                    What a shit strawman. The illegal drug trade figuring out it could use tor and bitcoin is what made cryptos popular.

                    No-one knew shit about them before that. The blockchain was invented in the 90’s.

                    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_Road_(marketplace)

                    Between February 2011 and July 2013, the site facilitated sales amounting to 9,519,664 bitcoins

                    While nowadays places do accept bitcoin and it could also be used as a every niche currency, in practice, there is no use for it, except purchasing illegal goods and services.

                    Because if you actually need something that isn’t illegal, why the fuck would you use bitcoin? Because first off, you’d have to find someone who agrees to accept it. Are there any supermarkets where you live which accept bitcoin? Any stores which accept it, period? Perhaps the local headshop/vapestore/other such place run by some weed-worshipping 20-year old might, but seeing how slow it is, that’s doubtful either. People take donations on sites in Bitcoin.

                    What use does Bitcoin actually have, except for illegal shit?

                    It’s downright obtuse pretending otherwise. When Bitcoin came out in 2009, it had no users or use cases. Then 2011 Silk Road opens and less than three years later there are official inquiries from states like UK into cryptos, because it started the crypto boom and made Bitcoin actually valuable, because it’s used to facilitate drug deals, which are worth actual money.

                    So because it has a base value of the trading going on in the marketplaces, investors started just buying it because it was a very good investment. But people don’t buy it to use as currency — unless they plan on buying something illegal.

    • shalafi@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      2 days ago

      The waste, while unnecessary, is negligible. Go buy a drink, any plastic drink from anywhere, and you wasted more plastic than a K-cup.

      Pro tip: Rip the top off, rinse it out, fill with dirt, perfect seed starter pod. Even has a drain hole pre-drilled. Also, chunk the coffee in your yard, garden, compost, whatever.

      • HubertManne@piefed.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        2 days ago

        I would not say negligable. I mean there is a reason reusable bottles have become a thing and for a big cofee drinker at work that can be like a dozen k-cups.