NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh suffered a resounding defeat on election night, losing his own seat, his party reduced to a single-digit seat count.
Taking bets on how long universal healthcare lasts now that Liberals can wave “It’s us or fascism/annexation” forever.
You do realize the Liberals have a minority that the few NDP seats can still keep in power? The hammer the NDP wield right now is vastly disproportionate to the very small number of seats they hold.
I was hoping the ndp couldn’t help alone, and the liberals would need to work with the BQ, but my hopes were dashed.
What makes you think the liberals want to end universal health care?
Yeah, someone’s confusing the parties goals here
Lol
It’s right in the name.
I got to be honest. The NDP are like some anime hero in this election sacrificing it all so the main protagonist can beat the villian
-Mass immigration and loosening regulation so temporary students can work 40 hours a week when we finally had wage pressure, as people asked for simple cost of living adjustments after massive asset price inflation and corporate revenue.
-Allowing unions to be forced back to work, eliminating all bargaining for wages.
-Ignoring the cost of living increases from QE and unfunded stimulus, by not taxing the rich a dime to pay for any of it.
Am I wrong in any of this, I’d love a carefully thought out retort that isn’t Cons bad.
Wow NDP is getting closer to the Liberals, might as well vote Liberal.
Why do they keep shifting center?!!?
I don’t know if I’ll say you’re wrong but I will say that that feels like half a comment and you might have forgotten to add the part where you weave it all together. Or make it relate to the previous comments.
The NDP started as a merger of labor party, saying they are a hero after a decade of abandoning labor seems silly to me. Thats how it ties together.
The NDP who brought us universal healthcare actually fully funded everything via taxes, the current incarnation of the NDP didnt fund a single program they created, meaning it is funded with future austerity with interest and inflation.
Good bye Jagmeet. Even though I never liked you as leader of NDP, your policies were a welcome change in an atrophied left ecosystem. Thank you.
While I was not a huge fan of Jagmeet, I don’t think he was a bad leader. The Federal NDP had a tough go at this election as I am sure many people who would traditionally vote NDP voted to keep conservatives out of power and marked the Red Box. I certainly did.
It’s really unfortunate that the largest party chooses PM instead of being able to just form a coalition of small parties, if I understand it correctly? Also super unfortunate that the PM then recommends Senators with lifetime appointments up to age 75.
It’s actually kind of miraculous that Canada has been so much more progressive than the USA with that kind of system.
They were losing popularity before the elections were called though. The losses are because of the circle around the flag effect, but their unpopularity is not.
I’m sorry, wasn’t aware.
I usually post CBC, but they break metadata embedding on Lemmy.
Here friend! Some of the Non Canadian owned new outlets and the Canadian owned when reading getting your information.
Where do Globe & Mail and Toronto Star sit?
Globe & Mail and Toronto Star are currently, Canadian owned, but can be acquired (by foreign interest).
P.s. none of the Canadian owned news outlets in the infographic can be acquired.
What makes those two different from the rest? Why can they be acquired?
Any for-profit organization (e.g. Globe & Mail and Toronto Star) can be acquired simply by buying shares. We’ve seen this with the Hudson Bay, for example.
The featured media outlets in the infographic are either government owned, or non-profit. You can’t acquire the government, and a non-profit structure doesn’t have shareholders.
Makes sense, thanks!
You can’t acquire the government
Owned and manipulated by our own oligarchs
first past the post will kill you as easily as it killed Estats Unis
Estats Unis
États-Unis, my dude.
i think they wrote it in catalan, not french
was the point made?
yes, sorry for deviating
i agree wholeheartedly, fptp is a relic that should be disposed of, but we shouldn’t forget that trump won the popular vote the second time (it’s crazy we even have to distinguish between a popular vote and the actual results), so switching to a fully proportional system is just one step of many to take, i feel
with less than 31 per cent of the vote…keep your targets aligned…
i’m not disagreeing, just amplifying, i hope…
this is what you argue about?
Is this guy the one who said people are stupid?
You’re thinking of Rajneesh, a dead cult leader
I like Singh but the results speaks for itself. There is no chance of NPD growing under him despite him doing a great job in my opinion. I am glad that he thought about people before the party and himself
I think he’ll have a great legacy in hindsight. The important policy accomplishments of the NDP while he was leader will hopefully last for generations.
For comparison, what policy accomplishments have the official opposition had in the last ten years, and what accomplishments will they have under a Carney government? The CPC has more than 10× the number of seats the NDP does now, but as a party they have had a lost decade in terms of policy impact whereas the NDP has scored big wins.
The NDP will hopefully have a comeback next election. I would guess they will.
Finally.
I feel sad for the guy because he really did care and worked hard. He was a good dude.
That’s not enough in politics, sadly.
Politics is war by other means. It’s every bit as complex and strategic, it’s just not as obvious.
The NDP has been lost in the wilderness as a party for a long time. They’ve spent far too much energy and credibility complaining about vote-splitting and electoral reform. They haven’t done the serious work to present themselves as a credible alternative to the Liberals, the way Jack Layton did.
I can’t wait to see who’s going to be their next leader.
He had his time and he did delivered some good things, but it’s defintely time for new ideas and more charismatic leaders. He was the most unpopular leader in this election cycle.
Jagmeet was plenty charismatic; and earnest, too. But while I worried about his focus, really he bounced off a glass ceiling; and then found slagging an ally in campaign ads was detrimental to both. (and let’s talk about how uncharacteristic THAT was)
But he presented well as someone with decent motivations, and his causes were generally on the side of regular Canadians, as you’d expect from the oranges. He had his best party and just misstepped while puppet-mastering Justin.
100% glass ceiling. He gained quite a bit of popularity in 2021 because of how charismatic he is. I think a lot of people aren’t willing to admit it, but Canada just isn’t ready for a PM that looks like him (or rather, that doesn’t look like previous PMs).
I agree generally agree with you but charisma is so subjective. A lot of people think that trump is charismatic but to me he isn’t t all. Many think Carney is not charismatic but he is to me.
trump had branding before he became president, so that pretty much helped him.
Yeah but he destroyed the NDP party
How so?
You saw election results
That doesn’t explain your opinion at all.
It’s clear he hasn’t resonated with voters since the start and he kept going until the party lost party status
Ok that’s more like it. And I agree with you. He was a nice guy, but we needed someone more feisty, more aggressive, at the head of the NDP.
While I agree that change is necessary, I feel like NDP as a whole needs to change strategy. It’s like every single promise they make is about throwing shade on another party, or saying they will fix something liberals did, but rarely any actual constructive or original ideas. They need to come up with their own identity instead of basing it on the opposite of another.
rarely any actual constructive or original ideas
My mom’s getting some dental work, thanks to his original idea.
They need to come up with their own identity
They HAVE an identity: small-biz heroes, middle-class champions, lift-all-boats tide. This has been their identity for decades.
instead of basing it on the opposite of another.
You confusing the orange with the blue?
I mostly agree with agenda of the NDP and also with Singh but I also noticed that he started bashing the liberals more than usual in the last couple of month. I live in Manitoba and hear often official ads from the Conservative party in radio about things they blame on Trudeau. In my opinion this needs to stop, this is not professional.
That you think this means the NDP is not getting their message out.
I agree that bashing other parties is useless but everybody does it. For weird reason the critisism only is given to NPD.
There is no such thing as original ideas in politics. Every ideas was proposed in other elections over the world.
I loved him, but he tossed Jessica Wetz under the bus and the next day, he was posting thirst traps on TikTok.
On Jan 1st, the 3 major canada-wide parties were:
- Liberal, headed by Justin Trudeau out of Papineau
- Conservative headed by Pierre Poilievre out of Carleton
- NDP headed by Jagmeet Singh out of Burnaby South
On May 1st the 3 major parties will be:
- Liberal, headed by Mark Carney out of Nepean
- Conservative headed by Pierre Poilievre(?) out of ?
- NDP headed by ? out of ?
NDP aren’t even a major party anymore with 7 seats, sadly
They’re not an “official party”, but they still got 6% of the vote. But, because of FPTP they only got 2% of the seats. Bloc Quebecois got 6.4% of the vote and 6.7% of the seats. There are still a lot of people out there who would want to vote NDP, but who voted Liberal to achieve “anybody but Conservative”. The plan worked, but I think they’d like some electoral reform.
I completely agree to be clear.
But “major party” means something in election parlance, and unfortunately because of all the required strategic voting, it means NDP won’t be at the next debate.
all the required strategic voting,
Much of BC was lost through three-way ties that the blues won by a nose. It seems that, for some ridings, strategy wasn’t strong enough.
If two Oranges ‘cross’ to Red to give Mark a mandate, can they ‘cross’ back before the next election?
Yeah I hope the fact that both the NDP and the LPC got screwed in BC on so many ridings causes their hopeful coalition government to actually implement voting reform this time.
Yeah, this might actually be convincing to those in power now. The eternal problem with electoral reform is: why would you change a system which you just won with?
Pierre Poilievre likely to stay as party leader since he’s very popular with the base. Unless someone like Doug Ford decides to fight him for the position.
Pierre is very not popular - when Trudeau quit he had a higher approval rating than Pierre. People this time were voting for the party, not for Pierre.
He’s not popular overall, but he’s very popular with the conversative base.
The election results (and polling on leader specifically) do not back that claim up.
I’m talking about apples you are talking about oranges. Look at polling for conversative support for Pierre Poilievre or party leader elections where he got 68.15%.
This is far from unpopular. I believe it’s a lot highter than many previous conservative party leaders
Liberal, Conservative, Bloc, other.
That’s why I carefully worded it “canada-wide parties”. If it were just big parties by vote, you’d definitely be right. In fact, Bloc is the only big party that came through the last few months with their leader intact.
Liberal, Conservative, Bloc, other.
Canada, Separatist, Separatist, Canada?
Thanks for finally doing the right thing, Jagmeet! It only took your complete and utter defeat and losing official party status… but I guess it’s better late than never. (Please elect a socialist leader now.)
Not surprised he is stepping down. A very tough night.
