• Steve
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    10 hours ago

    That’s great and all. But you seem to forget, “It’s the economy stupid.”

    You lot need to join Bernie and AOC’s campaign.

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        Democrats spent a solid year supporting an ongoing genocide.

        You no longer get to pretend to be good.

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        Tankies literally ally with the bad to fight the good. And perfect doesn’t exist.

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          Anyone who is against fascism is an ally in the fight against fascism, no matter how flawed.

          We can settle other differences by talking them out, but that can never be done with fascism because it only ever listens to painful consequences.

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          Democrats, generally speaking, are imperfect, but not systemically bad.

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            Uh… gestures broadly again? Democrats are seat warmers whose number 1 goal is to make sure the left doesn’t take power. Their number 2 goal is to make sure neoliberals stay in power both in the party and in the government. They’re systemically inadequate and systemically enforce their inadequacy on the American people. They’re at least as much of a problem as Republicans themselves.

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              The Democrats passed legislation that cut child poverty IN HALF. They passed the largest healthcare overhaul in a generation against unwaivering opposition from the entire GOP. They established the CFPB. They’ve pushed a ton of climate legislation. There’s plenty of good things the Democrats have done, even with absolutely razor thin margins and ZERO help from the other party.

              And to be clear: the Democratic party has fucking sucked donkey balls for decades, but they are nowhere near the level of malevolence that conservatives present.

              They’re at least as much of a problem as Republicans themselves.

              This is such a giant load of horseshit and should result in literally everyone discounting what you say. You are living in a completely different reality. This both sides nonsense is exactly that.

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                They passed the largest healthcare overhaul in a generation against unwaivering opposition from the entire GOP.

                They had a supermajority and what did they pass? Literally Romneycare. Like dude if this is your “the DNC is good” pitch then you should think about the possibilities that they squashed by making their healthcare “overhaul” a literal Republican policy.

                There’s plenty of good things the Democrats have done, even with absolutely razor thin margins and ZERO help from the other party.

                Where did I imply otherwise? I didn’t say they’re out there causing damage on the scale of the Republicans; you have Republicans for that. I said they’re inadequate, which you seem to agree with.

                And to be clear: the Democratic party has fucking sucked donkey balls for decades, but they are nowhere near the level of malevolence that conservatives present.

                And who stops you when you try to make the sort of radical change necessary to stop conservatives from taking power? Hint: It’s the fucking neoliberals. Who stole the candidacy from Bernie not once but twice? Again the fucking neoliberals. And who’s trying to stop David Hoggs from trying replacing the people doing all this with young progressives (aka people exceeding the bare minimum of political competence and human decency)? Again the fucking neoliberals.

                You need both the rachet and the gear to keep up this bad boy, and that’s the point I’m trying to make. The Democrats’ role in this nonsense isn’t to ruin everything (though they do some of that too), but to pave the way for Republicans to take power and ruin everything.