• alucard (they/them)@feddit.orgEnglish
    1031·
    7 days ago

    France showed tf up. Thank you France. Their signatures make up about 50% of the total number of signatures (>600k came from France and in total it’s approx 1.2M signatures).

    Thanks also to all the countries with at least 100%, because more than 6 countries were needed.

    Thanks for every single one that signed - no matter the statistics. Every signature counts.

    • CherryBullets@lemmy.caEnglish
      33·
      7 days ago

      Important to note; The French have a very strong culture of secularism, which turns out helps a lot with fighting against religious BS.

    • FundMECFS@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      11·
      7 days ago

      I’m torn between feeling proud my country did some good for once and annoyed that it means my signature is basically pretty useless compared to others.

      • underscore_@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        31·
        7 days ago

        Giving your signature is never useless on things like this, as it is direct increase in the total support. The more the threshold is surpassed the harder it is to dismiss a moment as and activist fringe and not mainstream opinion.

  • Cano@lemm.eeEnglish
    621·
    7 days ago

    Portugal once again is confirmed as an honorary eastern European country

  • huppakee@lemm.eeEnglish
    263·
    7 days ago

    This has more to do with reach than with public opinion, no offense but I do not find this valuable information. I mean I’m glad with every vote, but this doesn’t really say anything meaningful.

    • Robbity@lemm.eeEnglish
      8·
      7 days ago

      Well it’s both. Which tells you something about the French. Organized and intolerant to this kind of shit.

    • KumaSudosa@feddit.dkEnglish
      8·
      6 days ago

      I think these petitions depend a lot upon people actually being aware of them. I don’t think it’s widespread in Denmark at all

    • lookupgeorgism@lemm.eeEnglish
      1·
      6 days ago

      Maybe it’s already banned in these countries and there could be an assumption that it is already banned in most countries too, which make it seem like a less important issue.

      • bstix@feddit.dkEnglish
        2·
        5 days ago

        It’s not directly banned in Denmark. It’s basically non-existent, and as such difficult to find people who cares enough about banning it.

        Indirectly it is already illegal, because it’s illegal to treat anyone for anything against their will. This includes children.

        However, there are still people who send their children to a therapist or a doctor. I don’t know if a ban would change their minds in any way. Perhaps it’s better that the parents get to have that conversation with a doctor instead of just being angry at a law and seeking help at alternative places through religion or whatever. They’d probably do that with or without a law anyway, so if anything, it’s actually better if they have the opportunity to talk to a professional therapist first without just getting told off.

        Politicians don’t want to deal with it. They’re afraid the backlash from people who are against all things “woke”, would be bigger than the support from anyone who actually cares about the virtue signaling.

        If the practice is actually widespread and secretly done in religious circles, we would benefit from hearing those stories.

  • ThirdConsul@lemmy.mlEnglish
    11·
    7 days ago

    Pole here: I honestly though it was outlawed in Poland 5 years ago, but despite what Google AI lies, it wasn’t. Catholic Church intervened and the ban never was voted for.

  • lemming@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    11·
    7 days ago

    I’m wondering about coverage. How much was it talked about in the public? How much was it covered by media? What’s your experience from France and other countries that reached the threshold and from countries that remained far from it? People can’t sign something they never heard about.

    • iglou@programming.devEnglish
      7·
      7 days ago

      I don’t believe ECIs ever get a lot of media coverage, sadly.

      Most people don’t even know they can start/participate in ECIs and have their opinion taken into account at a european level. Best we can do is share the platform and make sure as many people as possible know about it.

    • troglodyte_mignon@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      6 days ago

      I live in France and only heard about it from social media: first, by sheer chance, a few months ago from a minor Mastodon account, the second time three days before the deadline, from the same Mastodon account again. I don’t browse Facebook/Instagram/Twitter/Tiktok at all, so I’m not sure how the coverage was there.

      A trans friend who’s normally way better informed than me about this stuff told me he heard about it less than a week before the deadline, so clearly word hadn’t spread that well, even if France already did have more signatures than most countries at the time. From what I can tell, it spread through digital “word of mouth” rather than through established medias. There was some media coverage, but reeeaally at the last time. A few politicians (mostly from the left) talked about it during the last days, too.

      Like someone else said, ECIs don’t get a lot of media coverage and most people don’t even know they exist. By the way, in France, there’s also an official petition system to submit law ideas to the parliament, and it’s also not very well known. (Another problem being that most petitions on the parliament website are ludicrous because, contrary to ECI, no vetting is done before publishing the petition (as far as I know). I take a look at it now and then, and it’s really tiring to search for the legitimate stuff in the midst of all the ridiculous crap.)

    • p_kanarinac@retrolemmy.comEnglish
      5·
      7 days ago

      In Croatia it wasn’t covered except for maybe some niche media and Grof Darkula. Still, I’m surprised we made it, homophobia is rampant here.

    • Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.orgEnglish
      9·
      7 days ago

      A lot of this is campaigning/spreading the word. Like France is fairly progressive but not 10 times as much as Sweden. Denmark and Austria are probably just late to the party. Not sure about Portugal though. They’re Eastern European at heart.