New Prime Minister, new relationship with China.
China’s playbook seems to consistently follow this pattern. If they get in a spat with anther country, the grudge continues until a new state leader comes into play, then all past grievances are reset. Sort of like Union-management - when a new collective agreement is signed, past active grievances tend to be voided.
Given that Carney is devout Catholic, we shall see if his dedication to the Pope, given the very tumultuous relationship between the Roman Catholic Pope and China, gets in the way of Good Governance in Canada’s policy decisions towards China.
Given that Carney is devout Catholic,
Not while he’s in office
But China is a better partner than the US for us right now and we will need them before we can ban trade/travel to the US
We’re not quite to this extreme (yet?) but it’s a similar logic to allying with Stalin when Hitler was around.
Trump isn’t Hitler, and Xi isn’t Stalin, but the logic is similar. It’s an ugly thing, Xi is a complete shitbag after all. But Trump is the more immediate threat.
Carney attended the inaugural mass for the new ope after he started office. He did so as a Catholic, not as a PM.
Yikes, I feel that should bar him from office
Apparently there is no such prohibition in Canada. Even leaders are free to worship according to their faith.
I suppose it’s a matter for the courts to ensure reasonable limits for section 2 of the Charter is upheld
Freedom from religion comes with freedom of religion in Canada.
He’s conservative, I’m not surprised he’s religious.
Why?
That’s not an explanation of why he should be barred from office.
He’s Catholic, but he’s not trying to make Canada Catholic. Trudeau and Poilievre are also Catholic. In fact, every single PM of Canada has been either Catholic or Protestant.
That’s fine, as long as they don’t act on it
All public employees are supposed to leave their religion at the door when they leave their house but elected officials should face more scrutiny than unelected workers
As PM is our highest elected position, they should leave their religion on election night and pick it back up when they leave
Keep your friend choose and enemy closer? Seriously tho, you can’t keep China or any other countries isolated in the globalized economy. Best to have a working relationship unless they are invading like Russia with Ukraine
Asked directly while speaking to reporters on Parliament Hill on Friday on whether he trusts China, Carney did not give an explicit answer.
Given everything China has done… makes sense to not trust them. But even then, what countries can you even say this about anymore? Seriously? I was pretty sure this whole thing with America and the UK leadership being so wishy-washy kinda taught us all that you cannot trust any country. You should be friendly and aim to get along with people but trust? Why would you trust a country when the leadership can change so easily and switch the feeling towards your country?
What a stupid fucking question
That’s right. And conversely cutting ties because you don’t trust a country or don’t approve of all its doings is also a bad strategy. Instead maintain a working relationship, do not trust and don’t develop a dependency but utilize what is useful. That’s what China does with the West and they’ve done well.
Exactly. We’re on the same planet. You don’t have anywhere else to go. You cannot treat a nation like it is in an individual person. It’s a different creature all together that requires different handling entirely. As much as I fucking hate the United States, so much so that I cannot elaborate on that without violating TOS, you can’t just wall them off completely.
Personally I prefer the “Anything you can do, I can do better” tactic of vengeance. Take literally everything good America has ever done and buff it until it shines. Throw away anything that doesn’t work. Then use all of that manipulation and forced economic struggle to collapse that sham of a country into what it actually is, at MINIMUM 3 different countries in a trenchcoat.
Your opinions would be received much more favorably without the obscenities. They add nothing and turn people off.
Gaze upon my field of fucks and see that it is barren. The fucktiller idle, the fuckerlizer piled in a corner and the seeds of fuck yet to be sown.
I genuinely couldn’t care less what you think if you’re going to lecture me over using the word fuck once. This isn’t elementary school in rural Manitoba. This is the Internet.
“Fucking” is an intensifier in this sentence. The meaning would slightly change without it.
Fucking thank you
It is not an ‘intensifier’, it is just obnoxious. The purpose is not to enhance any meaning, but to ‘dominate’ over the reader. The word is used in an ‘adversarial’ context - an insult and a challenge to the reader. It is symbolic of the general anger that we see so commonly today, and I submit it is a direct cause if that anger. The demise of American civilility is completely mapped on to the curve for the use of these obnoxious, angry, combative vulgar terms in the common vernacular.
It is just obnoxious
Opinion, not fact.
The purpose is not to enhance any meaning, but to ‘dominate’ over the reader.
Opinion, not fact.
The word is used in an ‘adversarial’ context - an insult and a challenge to the reader.
Opinion, not fact.
It is symbolic of the general anger that we see so commonly today
Opinion, not fact
and I submit it is a direct cause if that anger
Of that anger. Oh yeah, and opinion. Not fact.
The demise of American civility is completely mapped onto the curve for the use of these obnoxious, angry, combative vulgar terms in the common vernacular.
First, opinion and not fact. Second, I’m Newfie. We swear like sailors because we are sailors. Third, human history is filled with profanity and vulgarity. So unless you want to try and argue that profanity was what caused Vesuvius to explode, you don’t really have a leg to stand on here.
Once again. This is not a rural elementary school. I do not owe it to you to not swear. You owe it to yourself to conduct yourself like an adult and avoid what you do not like. Preaching to people and trying to insist your opinion is objective truth will do you zero favors in any part of your life. You should probably knock that off.
Personally, I’d argue that people who insist their own beliefs are universal truth are the people who brought down the United States and every other major power in human history. You know, because that is actually what happened and there is documented evidence of. Not “Swearing collapses a countries civility.”
I’d say you don’t have a leg to stand on but that’s obvious to anyone looking at this conversation. All they see is me standing in a fuckfield that is barren and you leaning up against a collapsing fence.
If you can’t handle the word “fuck” then you shouldn’t be online. People are angry, and rightfully so, and should be able to express said anger without being tone policed.
Regularize?
It’s the store brand version of normalize.
For all I know Mr. Carney’s personal religious views may be of great interest to theologians, but they are not politically relevant in Canada or in China.
I matters a lot if he lets his religious views interfere with his political duties. During the last elelction, the Catholic Bishops made a point of commanding all Catholics to vote for a candidate that would push for Catholic theology to dictate policy.
Communication is fine and cooperation where it is necessary and makes sense, but let’s prioritize CETA and CPTPP countries where trade is concerned.
Let’s do what it takes, and certainly do not let America dictate our trade policies.
I think it’s more about the changes in the US than the changes in Canada. Could be both though.
One of my friends is from Canada.
You wouldn’t know him though, he goes to a different school…
