• dragontamer@lemmy.world
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    22 hours ago

    Resignations are only useful in the short term.

    In the long term, Resignations provide new opportunities for the loyal to gain power and recruit.

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      19 hours ago

      Yep, but those who resign for moral reasons will be more likely to take actual actions to protest/stop what’s happening. The military will have a hard time recruiting competent people in that environment, though, and the people taking the vacancies will likely have diminishing competence as time goes on.

      To put it in perspective, if more officers retire at 20, they’ll generally be O-5s (Lieutenant Colonels or Commanders), and so the next year’s promotion cycle will need to promote more O-4s to cover the vacancies. This will then trickle down, and suddenly, you have officers who have been O-3s for just a couple of years being promoted to O-4 rather than waiting longer and gaining experience.

      In that scenario, there will be less efficiency in planning and execution and far more incompetence, and if being used against civilians, more brutality. But incompetence is easier to defeat in the long run. Seeing the incompetence and brutality will deprive the military of the smartest recruits who staff the important IT, intelligence, cyber, etc. communities. So, while they may get true believers, a lower proportion will be competent.

      No matter how it shakes out, it will get very bad.

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        18 hours ago

        Yep, but those who resign for moral reasons will be more likely to take actual actions to protest/stop what’s happening

        No. They won’t. Or, to be more blunt, the people who would actually be useful won’t. Because they are the ones who understand the world isn’t Call of Duty and a single guy with a pistol isn’t actually going to Jack Bauer his way through an entire armed escort.

        The military will have a hard time recruiting competent people

        They already do. That is why the military is dumb as a door knob and full of the kind of people who just want an excuse to shoot some folk whether they are brown or not.

        This will then trickle down, and suddenly, you have officers who have been O-3s for just a couple of years being promoted to O-4 rather than waiting longer and gaining experience.

        Oh, well then. That will solve everything.

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          7 hours ago

          Breathe. We will get through this, and how is question worth considering, as the commenter above did. If you need to share this burden of despair with someone, my DMs are open.

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            3 hours ago

            We convince officers and other respected leaders to coup at the right time at the right signal.

            But we also accept that the Grunts and dumbasses are gonna dumbass. Maybe you can get like an E-8 or E-9 on our side but don’t give much effort to E-3 or E-5.

            But sitting around hoping that the military just magically appears on our side (that leans hard into Libertarianism at best and outright far right hooo rah at worst) is dumb.

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              1 hour ago

              I’m addressing an instance of doomerism. Participation of current or former military in the rebellion occupies my thoughts far less than that, currently.

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                40 minutes ago

                Doomerism on the correct contexts is correct.

                We shouldn’t expect a military coup on this issue. The vast majority of soldiers will take the side of Police and ICE on this issue and proudly stand by them.

                Doomerism here allows us to focus our efforts elsewhere, where it’d be more fruitful to strike back vs Trump.

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          16 hours ago

          The ASVAB was pretty basic when I took it. Fortunately, a health condition at the time kept me from basic.