I’ve got three categories up for discussion; who has got a better (1) two year consecutive season peak, (2) overall skill/talent, and (3) overall career/accomplishment so far.

Also, I want to hear your ideas why Lillard was named top 75 while guys like Paul George hasn’t. Atm I aside from being political I don’t see any reason why Lillard deserves top 75 while George doesn’t. Or perhaps Lillard’s leadership quality trumps George elite two-way value. Lillard was also a bit more consistent than PG and has better career statline. Tho PG suffered a great deal of injuries and was toe to toe with lebron before injuries. Kindly illuminate me please. Thanks! Fan of both btw.

    • Bouldershoulders12@alien.topB
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      10 months ago

      Not even lowkey PG was top 3 in MVP & DPOY at his peak and led the pacers deeper in the playoffs than Lillard did with the blazers . He been to the conference finals 3x

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        10 months ago

        … And then Dame absolutely destroyed PG in the playoffs in that very season he was top 3 in MVP voting

        PG has never been as good as Dame was last year

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    10 months ago

    I think Dwight not getting Top 75 but Lillard did is a sham. But that’s another conversation. I’m taking PG for all 3 personally. I still remember those Heat/Pacers series like it was yesterday, and I have an affinity for 2 way players over one way bucket getters

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      10 months ago

      People forget Pacer PG and his horrific injury.

      It was a break or fracture but many thought he wouldn’t play anymore.

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    10 months ago

    two year consecutive peak

    it’s TWO year peak, PG had a fake MVP season, but the year before and the year after, he’s back to 22/6/4 on mid shooting

    Dame on the other hand, 20 and 21, 29/3/8 on 62.5% TS

    skill/talent

    PG

    accomplishments

    both have 1x all nba first, Dame has 7x all nba, PG is 6x, and Dame has more 2nd teams as well

    Dame has 5 top 10 MVP finishes

    PG has 2

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      10 months ago

      You are kinda looking at both the wrong years and you are only looking at scoring. Dame never had an MVP case simply because he never led a team good enough to even win a MVP…PG did.

      Also PG is one of the best wing defenders of the past decade together with arguably one of the best 2 way players.

      The only reason it’s even close is because of his injury, after which honestly I wasn’t even sure if he’d ever play again.

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        10 months ago

        i’m not, i just don’t give double credit for all nba + all defense

        PG is all nba BECAUSE he’s a good offensive player and a great defensive player

        if he was just his offense, he’s not an all nba player

        only some players in nba history are just all nba based purely on their offense or defense, PG isn’t one of them, he’s there because he’s good on both ends

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    10 months ago

    PG easily takes 1 and 3 considering he has 1 MVP calibre season while Lillard doesnt as well as earlier on in his career, the Pacers matching the Heat for a bit. Overall skill its quite close, honestly Lillard is better offesively but way worse defensively.

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    10 months ago

    Paul George across the board. Pretty disrespectful to imply otherwise

    The fact that Dame made all nba 75 over Dwight and PG… Jesus man. Idk about that one

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      10 months ago

      PG was never better than Dame was in 2020 and 2022.

      Dude put up 32/7 on 65% TS% last year man. That’s genuinely as good offensively as any peak Steph curry year.

      … And Dame literally beat PG in the playoffs handily in the year PG was top 3 in MVP voting

      Y’all some reactionary mother fuckers lmao. Dame has one bad game and suddenly he’s trash

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        10 months ago

        You a whole clown. Who called dame trash? Id just take pg over him. You’re acting like pg didnt go to conference finals and took lebron heats to game 7. You’re ignoring that he got supposedly career ending surgery and came back in top 3 mvp voting. Dame can just shoot. Thats it. Pg can do way more. But sure throw some scoring numbers on there 😂

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    10 months ago

    PG all three.

    Love Dame but he is just a bucket getter and in the finals you got to be that guy on both ends of the court.