• dangblingus@lemmy.world
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    Ahh yes. Makes perfect sense. God created everything, he even created the apple that he didn’t want Adam and Eve to eat, they ate it anyway, even though God knew that would happen, giving Adam and Eve free will, something that God knew would happen but didn’t want to have happen even though he didn’t have to create the universe in such a way that would allow this to happen. Anyway, a few thousand years go by and a bunch of humans high on some desert junk write a bunch of nonsense stories about the end of days, so God creates Adolf Hitler to kill all of the Jews, which are God’s favorite people and the ones that are the coolest yet most deserving of genocide apparently, so that the ones that Hitler didn’t kill could get their own made up country in the middle of the desert, so that God could press a button and open seals on a book or something that would unleash pure misery and despair unto the world so that he can take the REAL favorites (the Gentiles, not the Jews) to heaven while everyone else burns in pure agony for all eternity because that’s the normal flow of logic that an omnipotent and omnipresent deity would need to to follow in order to have a bit of fun.

    And they wonder why people think fundamentalists are fucking insane.

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      He just hates Muslims more than he hates Jews

      Sooo… just your bog-standard western Israel-fan, then?

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    Is that inconsistent?

    It’s really weird, but Christians have this whole death cult thing going on and it requires Israel be around for revelations to happen.

    This means that hitler and the resulting creation of Israel was literally part of God’s plan and this guy will support Israel still existing with religious fevor.

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      @bioemerl @jeffw

      Nothing about religion is consistent. That’s why faith is such a big component.

      Faith that your god is the right one, while everyone else in the world is bass-ackwards.

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      They’ve been trying to breed a perfectly red cow so they can sacrifice it, since that’s what Jesus needs to come back.

      These are not rational people.

  • BeautifulMind ♾️@lemmy.world
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    Well, yeah. There needs to be a fantastic war in the Holy Land for the Rapture to happen, the final battle, Armageddon, stuff like that.

    It helps to understand that a lot of these Zionist fundamentalists live in something of a death cult, they’re frothing excited for the end of the world so they can all go to heaven.

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      My wife is publishing a queer YA novel through Amazon and their family is questioning them about their salvation again. My wife and I were raised evangelical but left the church and later deconstructed. We hide that from their family. Their mother literally told them she’s having nightmares about not being able to spend eternity in heaven with them. My wife finally put together why their family is so worried about it all of a sudden. It’s 100% the Zion shit. They genuinely believe the end times are coming.

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    If you think God created Israel (by any means necessary), I bet you would be pro-Israel. Doesn’t seem logically inconsistent

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      If I believed their god existed at all, I’d view him as a vastly worse version of how they describe Satan. Creating an entire universe full of thinking, feeling beings just to torture most of them is incomprehensibly evil.

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        Still if you believed in the Abrahamic God you would have no choice but to choose to follow him or be subject to his wrath as he would literally define what is good and evil and he wouldn’t have to follow his own rules because he can simply will it to apply to him. Omnipotence is annoying like that.

        The pastor here is completely consistent in this statement. It is equivalent to the “God works in mysterious ways” thing they always say

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      It’s consistent in its inconsistency. To take every single page of the Bible at face value is to be naive and unable to identify contradictory information.

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      religious people seem to know a lot about god

      Until you ask some difficult questions, then they’re all "mysterious ways "…

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        Why did god allow those children to be murdered/raped/tortured?

        There must be a reason. Our minds can’t comprehend or interpret gods will. He works in mysterious ways.

        Does that sound about right?

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    Zionism intentionally promotes antisemitism to encourage Jewish immigration and frighten their own population into supporting militarism, this isn’t surprising at all. The Zionist Federation of Germany literally collaborated with Hitler himself.