God dammit! Im going to build my own hardware from scratch!
Common boys! Pack the shovels we need silicon!
In the spirit of not getting the joke, Pine64 could be worth checking out for whoever shares this sentiment. It’s the closest thing to user friendly free open source hardware at the moment, and their laptop (the #PinebookPro) actually looks pretty neat. @PINE64 @pine64eu
You could just uncheck one option
They could just not collect data…
there’s always that one bootlicker
Always the bootlicker, never the Jedi
There are reasons for data collection. But having it be opt out instead of opt in is the more evil of the two choices.
Fedora, from what I last heard, is doing the same thing for new installs. You gonna go send your pitchfork over that way too?
-
There isn’t actually a reason for data collection. We know this because prior to this the telemetry wasn’t present. So the things we need the drivers to do don’t actually require them.
-
Well, yeah. A lot of people were talking about switching from Fedora past few weeks.
There definitely is a reason to collect telemetry with user consent. Not everyone will go out of their way to report on issues, or there may be features that are underdeveloped that users may use more often than they expect and they want to move resources from focusing on one aspect of the OS to another. As long as it’s done with consent and is an opt-in system it’s fine. I get that this not the case for this Intel one, but I’m speaking generally for development as a whole.
Well, as long as we can agree that the case in the OP is not a good example of telemetry being used…
-
How dare!
Here is an alternative Piped link(s): https://piped.video/pG0yq2ATWbc
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source, check me out at GitHub.
2023 Might actually be the year I become a ludite at this rate. Did every tech company just decide this would be the year to make everything shitty?
The luddites were against technology being used to abuse and subjugate workers and drive down wages, so yes I’m absolutely a Luddite.
deleted by creator
So, unnecessary, stressing, repetitive, and dangerous work should still be done manually with worse results?
deleted by creator
Might as well do it while everyone’s anger is focused elsewhere.
Interest rates have motivated corporations to find creative ways to maintain profits. God forbid they just make less money for a while.
I’m not totally against all telemetry… but can they at least be transparent about when they use it, and exactly what they’re collecting? It really could be as simple as just defaulting to asking the user.
Debian approaches this sort of information gathering in the most respectful way I’ve seen so far. During the installation process there’s a screen where you are presented the option to participate in sharing package popularity statistics. It’s opt-in, just like it should be. Doing this sort of thing with the possibility to opt-out is super shady, but unfortunately very common these days.
You can also apt install or purge popcon whenever you want.
Same here as I believe (and correct me if I’m wrong) some types of data that can be collected can be helpful to the driver devs, especially for arc but other than that everything else should be opt-in and they should ask for permission of the user
deleted by creator
Intel driver updates, once the very pinnacle of sobriety and professionalism, have degenerated into the wild west of driver dissemination reminiscent of the very early days of Windows adoption, where, sometime the shit works, and sometimes it doesn’t.
There’s been a good 20 years of knowing if you downloaded an intel driver, that shit is going to fix your fucking problem. Not any longer.
Over the last year, especially with the Intel Driver scan tool, the Video drivers have repeatedly caused my screen to blackout and I’ve had to restore the previous non intel provided driver for my Arc capable video chip. Bluetooth drivers have also been shit.
Is this a known thing? I aways install everything that scanner suggests me.
Can I psy on you? No
Can I collected “telemetry” data? Sure, here is key and 200% access to my data, take what you need when you need it.
only europe can fend off this bs
us companies are just a medium for american espionage.
The USA is just one giant scam and it’s citizens are the victims.
agreed. all worldwide citizens suffer its existence.
This is why I trust no one when it comes to software setups.
Does this affect Linux users?
it in the installer, qhere you can select telemetry, and i don’t think they want to piss of companies that use linux, so this is just windows problem(and mesa programmers could just rip the shit out of the drivers anyway), but with the amont of windows telemetry i don’t know why this people are complaining
Why…
It’s valuable information that will help them improve the state of their software and drivers. The why should be obvious enough, though it’s not nice to have it forced upon you.
Fully understand the problematic precedent set by default / always on telemetry, but do we have anything to suggest that this collects any form of PII? I would imagine the data they collect can be previewed on their ToS or something along those lines but I haven’t been able to find it.
Furthermore, is it safe to presume this change is specific to beta Arc drivers on Windows, or is this likely to become the norm?
it also happen on linux?
No. Only on Windows.
Thank Tux.
