Rotund rap legend Stan Van Gundy has coached for four different NBA franchises.

The Miami Heat are the only team that seemingly moved on after their divorce: winning multiple titles since. The other three still haven’t foot their footing – at least on the offensive side of the ball.

The Detroit Pistons fired SVG in 2018 after a brief attempt to stay competitive with an aging Blake Griffin. Since then, the Pistons have been in a rebuild mode. Their offense and their spacing has been particular bad during those years. Their offensive ratings are as follows.

2018-19: 21st in offense

2019-20: 21st

2020-21: 26th

2021-22: 28th

2022-23: 28th

2023-24: 22nd

Those are some ugly numbers, albeit some expected for a team in a teardown / rebuild mode.

Meanwhile, the Orlando Magic’s rebuild has taken quite some time. Similarly, they still haven’t registered a top 20 offense since SVG got the boot all the way back in 2012.

2012-13: 27th in offense

2013-14: 27th

2014-15: 27th

2015-16: 21st

2016-17: 29th

2017-18: 25th

2018-19: 22nd

2019-20: 23rd

2020-21: 29th

2021-22: 30th

2022-23: 26th

2023-24: 27th

The offense and spacing still hasn’t clicked for Orlando yet, but there’s plenty of optimism on the horizon. Their defense is # 1 in efficiency right now and young stars Paolo Banchero and Franz Wagner have the team in the playoff hunt.

The last time that Stan Van Gundy coached was a brief stint with the New Orleans Pelicans. And the team barely avoided this same streak. They’ve been bottom ten in offensive rating the last two years (21 and 21), but barely made the top 20 the year prior with a sparkling # 19 offensive efficiency rating.

note: top offense is measured based on offensive efficiency points per 100 possessions and taken from basketball-reference.com

  • agk927@alien.topBEnglish
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    1 year ago

    SVG was horrible and put us in this mess to begin with. I hate that guy. I will never go back. I know we are awful but there’s no point in going 39-43 every year. It’s meaningless

    • Shadownesia@alien.topBEnglish
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      1 year ago

      Don’t think it was SVG who traded Bullips, signed Ben Gordon, Charlie V, and Josh Smith. And he definitely wasn’t the one who added Middleton as throwaway in a trade for Brandon Jennings.

      Even if his tenure was mediocre for most of it, he’s still responsible for the best record we’ve had in the last 15 years and making the playoffs that same season with some amount of hope for the future(at the time).

    • BASEDME7O2@alien.topBEnglish
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      1 year ago

      It gave melo one of the two seasons of real pg play he had in his prime and he led them to the WCF and took the kobe lakers to six. The nuggets were the second best team in the league that year IMO, especially how melo was balling out in the playoffs, and they took more games off of and played the lakers much harder than the magic did in the finals.

      So I was cool with it

    • ovalseven@alien.topBEnglish
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      1 year ago

      And it wasn’t even his first attempt. Iverson would have been a Piston in 2000 if Matt Geiger hadn’t vetoed the deal.

  • be__bright@alien.topBEnglish
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    1 year ago

    Interesting. I grew in Orlando so the Magic were my first NBA team. Was a lot of fun in the 90s and 00s but I never really saw Doc or SVG as a factor in their success. Thought they both just got lucky with great players.

  • Impressive-Theory-27@alien.topBEnglish
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    1 year ago

    I mean isn’t it more that, recently anyway, both the pistons and the magic have drafted guys who can’t really shoot, or just haven’t turned out that great

  • DrTom@alien.topBEnglish
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    1 year ago

    I mean, the Pistons have only had two 500 or better teams since 2008. Hard to put that blame on one dude who was there for four years.

  • GilbertArenas0000@alien.topBEnglish
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    1 year ago

    i miss stan van gundy’s rants during interviews about lebron being the goat lol. lebron is definitely top 5 but the order is MJ, Kareem, Magic, Kobe, Lebron.

    • Swanjeezy@alien.topBEnglish
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      1 year ago

      I don’t think SVG even watched tape on Henry Ellenson when he picked him in 2016, based on reports from that time. Just the worst drafter.

  • Turk0luu@alien.topBEnglish
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    1 year ago

    Nah for the Magic it was more hiring 30 year old Rob Hennigan to be their GM. He tried, but when put under pressure ruined the team for the past decade.

    Our new GM isn’t perfect but given what Hennigan did I can admire that he is willing to take his time and let players grow.