Living on less than half of the federal poverty level is considered “deep poverty.” That describes 53% of impoverished Chicagoans.

Living on less than half of the federal poverty level is considered “deep poverty.” That describes 53% of impoverished Chicagoans.

  • A_A@lemmy.world
    427·
    1 year ago

    This is about $7,000usd/year. Now look at Morocco and other such countries in here :

    List of countries by GDP (nominal) per capita https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita

    What I mean here is : when you have a need you are the best person to find a solution.

    Of course, this applies only in places where there is no war and Chicago is under some kind of a war.

    Gangs in Chicago - Wikipedia
    Chicago is considered the most gang-occupied city in the United States, with 150,000 gang-affiliated denizens, (…)

    • TrippyFocus@lemmy.ml
      92·
      1 year ago

      Not sure why you even went to the effort to link this because it’s almost completely irrelevant. The cost of living in Chicago and Morocco are not even remotely the same so trying to make the point that people elsewhere in the world can survive off that much so people on Chicago should is nonsense. That’s assuming we’d even consider people in Morocco living on that much as having a decent quality of life.

      • A_A@lemmy.world
        119·
        1 year ago

        Exactly, the cost of living is different …and there are reasons for that. it’s so obvious to me and yet you people don’t see it. Don’t bother you don’t have the right mindset.

        • TrippyFocus@lemmy.ml
          101·
          1 year ago

          Enlighten us because nothing in your comment bothered to go into any of the reasons so why even make it if you then don’t want to follow up.

          • A_A@lemmy.world
            113·
            1 year ago

            Notice how in my previous answer I took the effort to highlight in which way I agreed with your point. Do the same and we can start to talk.

    • Rentlar@lemmy.ca
      61·
      1 year ago

      I’m trying but I fail to see how you are stringing these very disconnected ideas together. First, how do any of these people get anywhere from Chicago on their own, when they hardly have a penny in savings to their name. Second, what the hell would these people do in Morocco, do you really expect them to get the same $19US a day in a country where they can’t speak the national language? They’d all go to become an actor to star in Moroccan films as the token American or something? Or they magically receive the same amount of money begging, or hoping their EBT card works? Or they all get remote jobs that they do without access to internet or a device to access the internet?

      I don’t know where to start with the gangs part of the comment, it is entirely irrelevant. Addressing gang violence without improving cost of living doesn’t do much at all for the situation of the deeply improvished.

      • A_A@lemmy.world
        31·
        1 year ago

        You are absolutely right on the short term and I was not thinking about this, but rather along societal changes … maybe over more than one generation.
        I guess you see it now and I don’t have to elaborate (?).

        • Rentlar@lemmy.ca
          2·
          1 year ago

          I’ll appreciate that a strategy of spreading people out across the world could have some merit in the long term.

          I hope you can also recognize that in the meantime if we don’t address barriers to mobility, affordability and living then we can’t really be in a situation to effectively implement long term ideas like this.

          • A_A@lemmy.world
            1·
            1 year ago

            First, how do any of these people get anywhere from Chicago on their own (…)

            and

            I’ll appreciate that a strategy of spreading people out across the world could have some merit in the long term.

            What I think is that societies and people can (and will) change. And for this, exile is not necessary. I hope no one is forced to go into exile.

            (more on this here)

            ideally, (i think) people should be free to go live in whatever country they want. Unfortunately, people in rich countries sees this as a big problem most of the time. But this is another debate all together and it’s not what I tried to say here at first.


            What I try to say is this very simple idea : it is not only the amount of money like $7000 per year (or whatever amount) that makes people rich or poor but rather :
            1- this amount and
            2- how they live (as a society).
            For example, in some countries, Morocco for instance, (maybe we can find other examples) people live not so bad with quite a low amount of money.

            Now ; the USA is a very violent country compared to many western countries (like in Europe). And, inside USA, Chicago is a very violent city compared to many order cities in that country. This way of life (you are with me here, right ?) makes people poorer with the same amount of money.

            Please don’t tell me my explanation is still confusing.