You need a foundational piece for your new franchise - which one are you choosing as your cornerstone for the next 10-15 years?

  • chickenripp@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    On the surface it’s luka. But in reality you want booker. He has proven to attract other stars because they want to play with him. He’s also a basketball chameleon. He can be your on ball playmaker, your off ball killer, a combination of both. And he can fit with any talented group of player in the league.

    Luka plays 1 way and you need to build the roster a specific way for him and stars generally aren’t that attracted to playing with him because the ball is always in his hands.

    • amr1115@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      booker this season is averaging 30/9 on 65%ts. while luka is averaging 30/8 on 61%ts. small sample size but so far booker is having a better season. and he just had a playoff run where he averaged 34 on 70%ts lmao. yea lukas better but it’s not this huge gap ur making it out to be. luka is also like a top 5 worst defender in the league. and while booker isnt an insane defender, he’s still a clear positive on defense and has gotten better at it each year. booker is a much better fit to most teams too, he can play off ball, much better catch and shoot played, can push in transition and disrupt the game if he locks in defensively. the mavs offense has devolved into a slow luka pnr on literally every play, which boosts up lukas box score numbers more than what his impact actually is

    • honestnbafan@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Idk Luka is probably like the 4th or 5th best player in the league and Booker is probably 8th or 9th best

      It’s still Luka overall yes but I do think that this comment section is somewhat overestimating the gap

      • musing_wanderer3@alien.topOPB
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        1 year ago

        For real…I believe Luka is better but some people here have literally no respect for what Booker is and what he’s done…

      • Halfonion@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        IMO there is a pretty big jump from the mvp tier of Jokic, Embiid, Giannis, Steph, KD, and Luka to the next tier of players (Shai, book, Tatum, bron, ant, Khawi ETC). Even though Booker is as you said generally only 4-6 players behind Luka in most rankings, the gap feels wider when it comes to ability/impact on the court.

    • Schmoova@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      I think Luka is better, and more importantly he’s younger, so he’s the obvious answer to this question. But if we’re just talking right now, saying they don’t “remotely compare” is stupid.

      I’d argue that Booker is easier to build around because he could fit into every team in the league. He’s a better defender than Luka and he’s a FAR better off-ball player than Luka.

      (Again, yes I agree Luka is better but they’re absolutely “comparable”, they’re both top 10 players)

    • musing_wanderer3@alien.topOPB
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      1 year ago

      Ok - not “remotely compare” is a bit harsh on Booker…wasn’t Booker 36PPG at 70% TS in the playoffs last year? Luka’s playoff runs are legendary but Booker has shined as well

  • Charliebitme1234@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    suns are 2-0 against the clippers in the playoffs, mavs are 0-2, i dont trust a player who cant beat my trash ahh team

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    1 year ago

    Starting a team from scratch, Luka obviously come on.

    But if you already got a team and need someone to join, Booker is the choice. Not many superstars are plug and play. See the 2020 (2021) Olympics when Booker turned into a off-ball role player. Ironically KD is the premier example for plug and play.

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      1 year ago

      I’ll trade the other guys to make Luka fit.

      Come on.

      Edit: we talking about Luka Garza right?

    • archerarcher0@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Nah that’s cap I’d like to see the team that would rather have booker

      Name a team in the league you’d rather have booker than luka on

    • musing_wanderer3@alien.topOPB
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      1 year ago

      I genuinely believe Luka and Booker are going to parallel Lebron and KD. Not in terms of achievements clearly, but in terms of their play styles, it’s the closest. Booker has got to the best pure scorer of this new generation while Luka has more of an ability to do a bit of everything

      People genuinely think there’s an enormous gap between the two. There isn’t (and that is coming from someone who thinks Luka is better)

      • SuckaFreeRIP@alien.topB
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        1 year ago

        This is an interesting view of it I think objectively Luka is a consensus top 3-5 player in the league which is gonna trump that most nba fans would say Book is somewhere between 6-12 so that kinda naturally answers the question when you ask public forum

        But it’s definitely really close tbh. Book has absolutely dominated the matchup in the regular season but Luka has the upset victory in the playoffs which does carry the most weight

        I think what gets lost is that Book is an incredible off ball player. I think last year Book was rated a top 3 off ball player with KD and Steph. Luka can never do that and he never will be able to do that

        Book is elite on ball and off ball and as a playmaker and a scorer. Underrated defender. It’s definitely worth a discussion imo. Luka is in a tier of his own as a playmaker and on ball threat. One of the best heliocentric players ever

        • musing_wanderer3@alien.topOPB
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          1 year ago

          I agree. I like Luka more but seriously - Booker is amazing. Lights out shooter, amazing offball player, efficient…people act like I’m not comparing THE best SG in the game rn to Luka. It’s not that far of a gap

    • ajteitel@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Also read something interesting. There are two players in the top 7 in both scoring and assists. Luka and Booker.