Harden has looked pretty cooked and especially looked atrocious today. Now he could still be ramping up as he claims and getting back to where he was earlier. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle but for the sake of conversation let’s assume this is actually who Harden is now and he isn’t good enough anymore to improve his legacy.

By that basically no more all nba’s, no more all stars, definitely no MVPs and no deep playoff runs (e.g. nothing past the 2nd round but Harden isn’t really known for deep playoff runs anyways so we don’t have to hold our breath for that)

In this hypothetical Harden is cooked and everything that he’s accomplished is in the past, where is he in your all time rankings?

  • SerialRapper@alien.topB
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    People have Pedo Malone in their top 20 so I don’t see why Harden can’t be around there. He’s basically the Malone of our generational. Legendary regular season player who came up short in the playoffs and would have a ring if it weren’t for the GOAT team peaking at the same time as him.

    Personally I have Harden top 25 all time

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    His 2018 playoffs pushing kd to 7 with no help the last couple of games is better than lots of guys title runs such as the 2020 2021 and 2022 title runs just based on how one sided the fight was yet rockets still went 7. He should be top 25 to 35 well above guys like pippen. Top 5 to 10 offensive player ever.

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    Well it’s tough

    MJ goat (to me by far) but for some maybe 2 or 3

    Kobe top 5-13 depending what you value

    West top 16-25 depending what you value

    Wade top 21-35 depending what you value

    Harden has to be below all them right

    Than Drexler has a much better playoff resume as the best guy on a team. I have Harden over Clyde but he’s disrespected in these conversations.

    But most would have Clyde 30-40 I’m guessing

    So somewhere between 22&39 as long as Wade is higher and Drexler not much lower.

    I’ll say around 31 is a good number

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    I’ve never seen him this disengaged before. His game tonight was an embarrassment.
    It’s going to take a while before the bad taste of this phase of his career washes away.

    That said, I’d argue that he’s being underrated right now because people have forgotten how dominant that Warriors dynasty was and how no one else in the league was even close to toppling it aside from James Harden

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    1 year ago

    Pretty low tbh. Washed up right now, ringless, good for a couple crossover highlights and 30 point game on and off, which translated into a bunch of 1st and 2nd round exits