• queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    arrow-down
    16
    ·
    11 months ago

    Have you considered that China would prefer to avoid violence when they consolidate the country? And that, maybe, all of this military hardware and funding might make peaceful reunification harder?

          • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            10
            ·
            edit-2
            11 months ago

            I get it, China bad.

            Whatever, I won’t convince libs that we shouldn’t be provoking China over Taiwan. Instead, I want you to think about the fact that Republicans are able to use this shit as leverage and now it’s going to be harder for refugees to receive asylum. For Taiwan. What the fuck?

    • QuinceDaPence@kbin.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      edit-2
      11 months ago

      Have you considered that China would prefer to avoid violence when they consolidate the country?

      No shit.

      But Tiwan wants China to fuck the fuck off. And hopefully if China ever pushes the issue, the Tiwan Straight seabed gains some new artificial reefs courtesy of the Chinese military.

        • PugJesus@kbin.social
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          11 months ago

          “We want to do it peacefully, but if you resist we’ll do it violently. This makes it not imperialism.”

          Do you even listen to yourself?

            • PugJesus@kbin.social
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              11 months ago

              It’s literally what you said, dumbass. You said if Taiwan declares independence China will have no choice but to invade.

              • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                7
                ·
                11 months ago

                I did not use the word “invade”

                Let me clarify; China will cut off trade and freedom of movement, begin blockading the straight, shut down banking and communications, etc. I doubt they’d land boots on the ground and they certainly wouldn’t bomb Taiwan.

                At least, not until Taiwan starts using all those shiney new weapons with the expectation that they have the full support of the United States. Then there’d be an invasion.

                At the end of the day, you need to choose between war and peace. And it seems Democrats are willing to fuck over asylum seekers for the chance to start another war.

                • PugJesus@kbin.social
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  ·
                  11 months ago

                  At least, not until Taiwan starts using all those shiney new weapons with the expectation that they have the full support of the United States. Then there’d be an invasion.

                  “There won’t be an invasion until Taiwan reacts to literal acts of war”

                  1. Doubt.

                  2. That’s still fucking imperialism, bootlicker.

                  • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    arrow-down
                    7
                    ·
                    11 months ago

                    Are America’s sanctions on Cuba and Venezuela acts of war? If you agree that they are then I’ll concede on that point.

                    Also you really don’t understand what imperialism is, do you? Imperialism is an economic structure used to extract superprofit from imperialized nations. Annexation and integration are fundamentally different, because China has no plans to turn Taiwan into a labor/resource colony.

                    When France colonized Algeria they didn’t declare Algerians to be French and grant them the full rights and privileges of French citizens. Get it?

    • FaceDeer@kbin.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      11 months ago

      Have I considered that China would like for the people it invades to just roll over and accept their new masters instead of fighting back?

      Yeah, I considered that. It seems likely that they would want that. I have yet to think of any good reason why they should get that wish, though.

        • FaceDeer@kbin.social
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          11 months ago

          It’s not China’s place to make that choice for Taiwan. If they want to entice Taiwan to join them voluntarily, well, they’ve done a pretty bad job showing how “beneficial” that would be when you look at Hong Kong.