Hey, German here. What the f*** are Americans doing at the other side of the Atlantic? Some of you already know this monstrosity. I did’nt. This is a Ford F650 Truck and when I stepped out of my Youtube Bubble I realized, it was marketed as the “biggest, baddest Truck on the road” for the everyday American. Are you guys serious?! Is the end goal really to drive a Monster Truck to McDs to get a McFlurry? Americas bloodiest wars have been fought in the middle east to secure oil, bombing nations to rubble. And all, for this bullshit? The excess, waste and decadence is mind boggling to me and people on Reddit seriously justifying this by “you know dude I’m 6,4ft. I don’t fit in any other vehicle” makes me go up the wall.
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You know this is by no means a common vehicle right? I’ve never seen one outside of a few pictures only found on anti-car posts. F350s are even rare to see on the roads, F150s are more common than grass and F250s are a daily sight unfortunately.
This isn’t even a 350
This is a heavily modified F650(750?). They took a commercial truck and slapped a pickup truck body on it. It’s comically useless, and costs 150 thousand dollars.
Here’s a video where a guy reviews it.
150k is about how much you’ll pay for a RAM here in Australia - and dickheads are still buying them.
Ah, the worst of the American trucks.
For that much money I could clean out an entire used truck lot, and have enough left over for another entire used truck lot, and I would have like 30 Dodge rams. So enough to make one last most of the rest of the year.
We call them Dodge Deweys (DUIs) because of that factoid that the Ram 2500 has the most drivers of any truck brand/model with a DUI under their belt.
Literally. Rams are horrible
I try so hard to convince myself it’s selection bias, but Ford Ranger drivers really do feel like the absolute worst fucking drivers on the roads in Australia. Like I don’t see a single one that doesn’t drive like an absolute fucking loser.
These American and American-style shitheaps are a fucking scourge
While there’s probably some correlation, the Ranger is also the best selling car in Australia - so there’s lots of them.
Recently I was in a friend’s car and couldn’t believe how badly he drove; too fast into corners then not managing to stay in his lane, limit breaking to every traffic light then stopping over the line, speeding, weaving, etc and he drives a Volvo! I figured that at least I’d probably be safe when he crashed.
Yea I know, I didn’t say it was a 350 lol
What, it exists?! I thought it was some digital creation inspired by a 350, already an awful huge truck.
Edit: had to look at Ford’s website. The biggest pickup I could find there is an F450 Super Duty. There’s both an F650 and 750 as trucks without beds (“straight frame”). Those actual trucks.
Yeah, it’s not a stock truck. You can’t go to any dealership and buy that truck. You have to buy a commercial truck and take it to a company to turn it in to that monstrosity.
Your average half ton pickup is 70-80k now.
You actually probably see a lot of F250s and F350s, but they are used as commercial vehicles, often with stuff bolted to the bed (or in the case of the F350, sold without a bed and have aftermarket attachments).
Many tow trucks are F350s/F450s (and bigger for towing bigger vehicles), ambulances are often F550s, bucket trucks are F650s/F750s, etc.
For people who actually do a lot of hauling trailers and such, an F-250 is very sensible. Half ton pickups often have drivetrain failures when asked to haul heavy loads on the regular.
A full set of mobile mechanic tools is too much weight for half ton truck, without materials. Bigger pickups make sense for people who work trades, especially heavy ones.
Many of such tradespeople don’t have a second vehicle, especially if they bought the truck themselves (self-employed) or if their company provides and doesn’t care if they do their life stuff with it (basically free gas if you don’t abuse the privilege.)
F250 is super common for construction fleet vehicles.
Yea that’s why I said they’re a daily sight. The picture in OP is a f650 though and those are very uncommon
F150s are for the weekender dads that occasionally need to haul something around. F250s and 350s are for people that actually work (usually) this monstrosity is bullshit, anyone that genuinely needs that much truck buys an actual semi or something.
Living full time in an RV I purchased a 2500 (F-250 equivalent). I have put as much if not more miles on the thing than the “working man” (sitting about 22,000 for this year). I do agree it is a monster of a vehicle and I do try to only use it for the towing of the RV. Any chance I get I’m riding my bike. A semi for this situation is overkill and an absurd price difference compared to the 2500.
The Econoline (and maybe the Transit) seems to be the vehicle of choice for people who actually work.
Vans don’t work for a lot of people that need a pick up bed.
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I’m Dutch. I’ve never seen an f150 in the flesh (metal?). I know one guy with a large pickup, he has two very tall kids and has his own business. My parents had what was considered a large car, a Citroën Berlingo.
Suv’s are becoming much more common though, and they are already often too big for our roads.
F150s are as ubiquitous in the US as Renault Clios or equivalent for you
But it exists. And the next one could be bigger. One of these existing is more than if they were never created.
There is bigger, the f750 exists, is also fully customizable for commercial needs like dump truck duty or heavy hauling not needing a Peterbilt semi. There is a use case for these or they wouldn’t be made.
They absolutely are not commuter/weekend warrior vehicles like people use the f150 for and you’ll probably never see the 650 or 750 and recognize it
The F650 is a commercial vehicle. You can’t buy one from Ford without a commercial account with them. You need a CDL to drive it. They’re uncommon to see, and when you do, they’re invariably used to do actual work.
No, they’re not used just to drive to McDonald’s.
You don’t need a CDL to drive these. Doug Demuro has even reviewed one.
Slight correction on my part. It’s very easy to set one up to put it technically over the GVWR limit where you need a CDL. Ford makes it so it can be setup just below the limit.
You better.
A vehicle that size is essentially a 5.5 tons truck in Europe, which is the type of vehicle used for moving cargo or modify into a special purpose vehicles. It is not a recreational vehicle.
Thank you! I’m tired of people complaining “hur dur’ big truck bad”, without any other logical input.
I do get it. The market around the F150 (and similar trucks at other manufactures) is ridiculous. There’s luxury trim levels in there that offer two tone leather, which does not seem like the sort of thing anyone who works with their truck would want.
It’s just that once you jump up to the F250 or above, you’re mostly dealing with people who actually use their truck for truck things.
Exactly! I’m in complete agreement! We’ve been wanting the F250 for our fencing company because it seems modest for our tools. Unless someone is constantly moving aroung commercial grade material on a smaller scale the F620 helps, but not very practical for majority of society. Hopefully pushing luxury trucks is just a fad and the next best thing will be more useful for everyone.
This is a really braindead and disingenuous take. The F650 is a commercial vehicle. Attempting to pretend that “Americans” drive these is moronic, because the number of private citizens who drive one of these as a personal vehicle is probably in the triple digits in a country with a population of 332,000,000.
I know it’s fasionable to farm for upvotes these days by blaring AMERICANS BIG TRUCKS BAD. But no one is “driving these to McD’s to get a McFlurry.” Very, very few people own one of these just to be “decadent.”
You may as well get on your high horse about Americans driving big rigs all the time while you’re at it. Because they totally do!!! (It’s true!) Ones who are truck drivers, you know, delivering the goods you rely on every day.
On the very outside edge of the graph, there are probably a few outliers who own one of these to tow something enormous: A big horse trailer or a box trailer with their airplane in it or something. I have never seen one of these on the road that wasn’t an actual commercial vehicle like a tow truck or similar.
The problem with obviously ridiculous whinging like this is that it dilutes the actual useful message, which is that America’s transportation infrastructure is fucked up, and our reliance on fossil fuels (not just trucks) is Too Damn High.
The year is 2068. Everyone takes the bus to work. Their own personal bus.
The real pro move is to convert either a double-decker bus for personal use or a bi-articulated bus.
Ok, see to put thin in context a little bit, this truck is not for, nor is it even marketed towards regular people. This is a modular truck, so this is going to be converted into ambulances, tow trucks, bucket trucks, etc. This one does have a bed on it, but they had to get one from like an F-350 and modify it to get it to fit. And while you can buy this truck, it’s not really a thing on roads here.
Just to add to this, and affirm that it’s not intended to be a “go to McDonald’s” truck, here is the actual product page for this model where it is marketed as a commercial vehicle.
No truck is intended to be a “go to McDonalds” truck. Yet, here we are.
This isn’t true any more, look at any modern consumer pickup truck e.g. Ford F150. The bed is ludicrously small and high, it’s got a fast, low torque petrol engine and transmission, the cabin is large and comfortable. It’s designed to be a normal car and that’s what it’s used for.
Btw… German car companies built those monstrosities…
The Unimog U500 was more or less just a marketing gag, but the G63 was a real thing…
To be fair the G wagon is a ridiculous vehicle, truck bed or not
What’s supposed to be the deal with the Unimog? It’s an off-road capable military/commercial vehicle that is used pretty much exclusively for those kinds of things. I don’t know the guy in the video, but calling the version that he had “luxurious” was patently absurd: Things like climate control can be legally required if you want to tell your employees to work in these vehicles in extreme weathers (and: Germany can get quite hot as well) and didn’t match at all what he was showing. Also: Because it has an additional cabin to transport more people it is a family-version? WTF? The primary use-case for that is if you need to transport several employees to somewhere. Which is not at all an absurd thing if you are talking farmers/military/fire-brigade/construction/…
OP you just got pwned! n00b!! I can’t believe the 6x6 is in GTA V and I’ve never driven it!!
Can confirm. We have 2 Dodge Ram 550s for our ambulances. And the photo clearly has F-550 on the sides.
It also needs a CDL to drive it.
By all means, criticize things like the Lariat or King Ranch trims of the F150. Those add luxury features that clearly have no work purpose. The F250 on up, though, is mostly for people who get shit done.
You do not need a CDL. I don’t know where you’re getting that info
An F650 has a GVWR of 26-29k lbs. A CDL is required for any vehicle over 26k
The GVWR varies, as it’s a modular truck, but the lowest is 25,600 according to Ford. Yes it can be higher and need a CDL, but that’s due to accessories.
Edit: That’s for the 2023 model. Previous model years, such as the 2022 have a GVWR of 22,000 - 26,000
Factory gvw doesn’t matter. What does matter is whether or not it has air brakes, the actual weight of the vehicle including what you are hauling, and the weight range you have insured it for. Your average F350 is legally capable of towing a combined weight of over 25000 lbs also, but you don’t need a CDL till you exceed 25000.
Requirements for the CDL vary by state. Don’t know what yours says, but in my own state of Wisconsin, it’s any one of:
- 26,000lbs GVWR (typically; there’s some details around how the weight is calculated)
- Carries hazmat stuff
- Designed to carry 16 or more people
Air brakes don’t enter into it, at least not here.
If you intend to operate a commercial vehicle with air brakes, you do have to take an air brake skills test in Wisconsin.
You don’t need a CDL if it’s 26,000lbs or lower. That’s the point I’m making. Just driving it, unloaded, without any heavy accessories like a dump bed or a rollback, a CDL is not required. So yes, someone could buy one of these and use it as their mall-crawler without a CDL. That may not be the intended use of the vehicle but it’s possible.
Well played, you answered the German with logic
This is custom made by a shop. Ford sells the front end and cab, and a small shop builds the rest.
It’s prohibitively expensive to the point of being a non issue. U need to calm down bro.
I have seen one nearly as ridiculous as this one, on the road in Cullman, AL.
They’re out there.
These are novelty vehicles for the ultra wealthy. “Normal” pickups are already comically large and ripe for mockery, no need to hyperbolize
This is a work truck for commercial use. The bed in this image is an aftermarket mod done by someone with more money than sense. OP is just outrage baiting.
This is a work truck for commercial use, that is an overengineered abomination.
That cannot support large equipment, has no PTO, cannot safely carry a cherry picker, will not pull a low-loader 5th wheel trailer with a full load, run a flat-bed with a winch for towing cars, or carry 7 CY of wet soil in a dumper.
Commercial operations buy things based on their needs. There’s a reason why the small truck you’ve posted is almost non-existent in the US.
There’s a reason why the small truck you’ve posted is almost non-existent in the US.
Yes, it’s called overcompensating. You think other countries don’t do infrastructure and heavy machinery?
I used to drive an F650
In the military
For my job
It was a truck to refuel aircraft.
People don’t drive these on the roads, but our trucks are too big.
I’m not defending the truck or America but I don’t think that one is common outside of industry. I live in the South and have never seen one. F150’s are very common, you see F250’s here and there, and F350s are basically exclusively work trucks. I didn’t even know it went up to F650 (the F750 apparently exists but seems like it’s really only for industry).
Ford’s web site has them “starting at” $80k but without a bed or any consumer features. It seems like they’re more the base for order things like fleets of tow trucks or dump trucks. I’m sure a mega rich person can buy one but it’s probably a weird custom thing that costs $200,000 and is missing whatever creature comforts go into vanity trucks.
650s and 750s make up most of those electric service vehicles (huge boxes of tools over the wheels and maybe a cherry picker) and Ambulances. Since ambulances are private businesses (not owned by a hospital wouldn’t you know it.) They purchase their fleets and commission a box for the back. That’s why you see so many different vehicles that look “converted” - because they are!
I’m not discounting your experience but I grew up and lived in Georgia for most of my life, and you are right that f150s are very common, but I remember many more 250s than here and there, I’ve only been gone two years
Saw one the yesterday in Oklahoma. They look like gaint Tonka toys and are stupid. But Chevy made one in the early 2000’s guess Ford wants into it now.
These should be outlaw. And I know how to solve the rolling coal but we need to bring back inspections for vehicles to sholve it.
It’s a medium duty truck. The 550 and 650 are most commonly found acting as either tow trucks or heavy machinery repair. Outlawing them is preposterous as they serve a purpose.
Since they’re sold incomplete (without a bed), maybe he means outlawing them being modified like this one with a silly bed? Either way, I’m pretty sure you need a commercial air-brake license to drive this thing in most jurisdictions.
One I saw had a bed and was pulling a trailer. It was loud as fuck.
To be fair, Ford doesn’t really make the final product here. They make the cab and chassis without a bed, and they’re then shipped off to companies that turn them into commercial trucks like large tow trucks. But some company started buying them, slapping on a pickup truck bed, a lift, and a bunch of cheesy accessories and 'Murica flags, then charge idiots $100,000 more than they’re worth so they can own the Libruls.
They’re so rare to see that I’m not even mad, as long as some dipshit is wasting his life savings on this instead of donating it to shit politicians.
Edit: Ford doesn’t even make or offer a pickup truck bed for these. IIRC, these beds are from F-250/350s and modded to fit.
Maybe not that recent “https://www.worktruckonline.com/335688/ford-reports-record-sales-of-the-f-650-and-f-750”. But I guess, enough guys buy em.
I work in the US auto industry. I’m not happy about this shit either.
Also, F650 is a rare vehicle so it really isn’t a good one to be mad about. F150’s and F250’s are everywhere though
Most people in Europe shake their heads an F150… Even as a work car it’s terrible
Professional trucks here are the ford custom transit
Give me a Mitsubishi L200 any time over an American made truck.
In my eyes it’s just as bad as any other pickup. It’s not even a real pickup. It’s a wannabe pickup
I’d love a ranger but they are a still a bit big. Fwiw I live in the woods so it would be a work truck.
I work at a large company with a lot of trucks and truck people. Never seen one.
This isn’t really something you see on US roads, unless you replace the bed with a flatbed or box. No normal person owns one of these as a pickup truck.
Yeah I live right in the middle of farm country and the only time I’ve ever seen this truck is like you said, with a flatbed.
I’ve seen some ridiculous trucks in my area, but you can always find most of them on a farm being used for actual work.
I saw one of these attempting to back into a parking spot at home depot a few weeks ago. I’m 6’1, the guy that got out was much shorter than me.
Oh, well, you saw one so evidently all americans drive one.
Well, at least one…
This size of truck isn’t common. Coal rolling is both far more egregious and common than this.
Can confirm, the United States has lost it’s mind. And yes, you have it down. The US goes abroad to secure resources for capitalist industry and has been promoting upsell and excess for some time now. Verhoeven’s satirical advertising blurbs in Robocop (1987) were right on the mark.
Making us stupid and wanting to spend our money on $200 K-Pop bobble heads is exactly the world our corporations strive for, and the means to regulate them by a public-serving government was gutted in the 1980s by the Reagan administration. George W. Bush and Donald Trump (and the minimal pushback during the Clinton and Obama eras) are the natural result.
And in the next two decades you might get to see how the US does civil war and fascism. Every election lost by a Republican is challenged for legitimacy in an effort to neuter elections and create an autocratic one-party regime. Hopefully, this kind of shenanigan should sound dangerously familiar.
You got it right in one. We are out of our fucking minds, no small part to some willful efforts to turn the people of the US into mindless obedient consumers, but an epidemic of intergenerational mental illness has also contributed to Florida-Man-like conduct and truckers re-configuring their cars to belch soot as rolling coal.
We have indeed gone insane, but remember, not all of it is internal though. Let’s not forget the influence campaigns being waged against America from various foreign nations that are trying to divide the country to cause it to be so busy fighting itself, that it effectively removes itself from the world stage, letting those nations basically do whatever they want without American interference.
The Chinese are spying to steal your technology, the Russians are doing pro bono campaign work for the most divisive candidates and the Americans are perfectly able to go off the rails without outside help
I would say perfectly willing and/or eager to go off the rails.
We don’t even have to try mate.
The problem is the backdoors to SHIELD used by the oligarchs that want to give it secret orders are ultimately going to be used by HYDRA as well. In fact, one of the failures comes from the belief that the HYDRA element infiltrating SHIELD can be detected and cleaned out as if with an antivirus scan.
We’ve seen this the way NSA turned from a communications security department to a surveillance and intelligence department (that is, from anti-surveillance to surveillance), so instead of exposing and closing exploits and vulnerabilities, they catalogued them in secret for their own use – leaving them available for other interests, including rival foreign states.
I’d like to say we have the terror scare from the 9/11/01 attacks to thank for that, but federal law enforcement in the US like FBI and NSA have secret-police tendencies, and like to use their powers to harass or neutralize enemies of the current administration, so this has been going on for some time.
A recent Behind the Bastards two-parter about How Capitalism Ate Christianity takes it as far back as the Great Depression and resentment of the New Deal. Larry Lessig notes that Boss Tweed in the 1850s was already moving to turn the US into a plutocrat-run autocracy, hence the current government as an oligarchy with small democratic features.
Hopefully, this kind of shenanigan should sound dangerously familiar.
Ah, no worries, Europe is right behind you! The UK has completely fallen off the cliff and is a full blown kleptocracy, Hungary already has an openly fascist Government, and in Germany the Nazi party is currently clocking in at 20%+ in opinion polls, which would make them the 2nd strongest party in the next election. Yay! 🥳
I’m 6’4, 250 lbs. Canadian
I drive an 02 golf. Before this, a Toyota 4runner (1st gen).
I’m not trying to brag… But I think it’s not a “I’m too big for anything smaller” it’s a “I’m too insecure for anything smaller”, aka “my dick is too small for anything smaller” syndrome.
I’ve recently made friends with a group of Germans who have come to Canada. I’m astonished by the practicality and industriousness I’ve noticed in contrast to the idiocy of most Canadians. I’m not saying you don’t have any idiots in Germany. I’m just saying culturally, there seem to be some big differences.
Remember, don’t let the dumbest of the world ruin your happiness.
Prost
It’s been my experience as someone who’s lived abroad a couple of years that in general, if you meet expats, they tend to be from the upper echelons of their native societies. They tend to be well educated and they have the time, the resources, the high-paying and internationally In-demand jobs, the language as well as the motivation to go abroad and experience something new. The expats you meet also don’t have anything holding them back, like E. G. a sickly relative.
All these filters make it more likely to meet interesting people.
Why d’you call them expats and not immigrants?
I think it depends on what they’re gonna do long term. An expat goes back to their home country after a stint lasting a couple years. An immigrant moves to the new country permanently, not just working for a short while.
I worked with expats at an old job, and had coworkers go abroad on expat assignments. It really isn’t that different in reality, especially as plans change. One of the expats ended up liking their expat assignments more than their actual job, and quit when they tried to put him back in the old position. Another one was so highly embedded within our work group that I was surprised to learn he hadn’t fully immigrated over.
Because I’m not a native speaker and I thought that was the right word 🤷♂️
“Prost, Kollege”. Yeah we got our fair shair of idiots too. The mind virus of trucks is infecting some of our fellow citizens. But I guess high gas prices and smaller roads shielded us from much of this development. The next OPEC manufactured oil crisis will probably put an end to this. Anyway, “servus” and greetings to Canada.
Is the end goal really to drive a Monster Truck to McDs to get a McFlurry?
The end goal is to drive a Monster Truck right OVER THE FUCKING TOP OF McDs HELL YEAH BROTHA CAN I GET AN AMEN WITH A SIDE OF FRIES?!?!?!!
CRANKIN MA HOGG TO THIS FR FR BROTHAAAAA
