“It’s not a lack of training issue, it’s a culture of violence and lawlessness issue.”

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      Doesn’t this demonstrate how utterly ridiculous the “minority” and “majority” labels are?

      Don’t get me wrong… these terms are useful in a particular context, when you’re worried about a minority of people being underrepresented, underprivileged, overly-scrutinized, etc. but let’s not forget, in these cases, it’s always relative to a “majority” who has better circumstances. That’s to say, the minority wouldn’t be underprivileged if it were not for a majority that is equally so overly privileged.

      Where do these groups come from in the first place? Is there something about the blood of a Latino man that makes him fundamentally and categorically different than anyone else? What about when that Latino man legally enters the US and decides to join ICE in the process of capturing other Latino men, has his blood then been purified to another category? What if the Latino man goes to his home country, and he’s magically no longer a minority, has his blood then again changed? Obviously not.

      Being minority or majority seems to have a lot to do with whatever arbitrary categories you fit into, dependent typically upon a single factor. Some big ones:

      • Where were you born?
      • What god do you believe in?
      • Do you eat meat?
      • What sex are you attracted to?
      • Do you identify with your birthed gender?

      We create categories from the answers to these arbitrary facts about oneself, and we then rely on those categories to identify groups of people. But these facts don’t really tell you anything about the people they supposedly represent. Perhaps you learn one detail about an individual, such as “they’re a vegan.” Yet, you don’t know why they’re a vegan—so what good is knowing they’re a vegan at all (unless you’re catering, of course)? Yet, despite not knowing much about about these people, we use these categories as a platform to stereotype them—to reduce them into simple facts and pretend we actually do know everything about them.

      Why do we have an instinctual bias toward this behavior—toward creating “in groups” and “out groups” out of thin air, and then using that logic as a gospel for ethical intervention? To me, this entire categorization thing seems as though it’s only valuable as a platform for controlling people. What’s most deceiving, though, is the fact that you must use this same platform to counter it. You have to “advocate for vegans” if you want to help out their underprivileged community — thus using the same platform for reducing people down to easily identifiable categories.

      People should start saying, “I’m not vegan. I just can’t stand to eat meat given all the animal cruelty.” Or “I’m not vegan. I just have a rare allergy to protein and might die if I eat meat.” Or “I’m not Latino. I was just born in a Latin country.” … doing this might sound silly, but I think it cuts the lifeline used by oppressors here. Stop categorizing us — stop categorizing yourself. You’re a complex and highly dynamic person.

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        I’m not trying to start a debate on classification, I am just pointing out that the powers that be will have less inclination to protect one of their own based solely on things like skin tone. The only person prosecuted for all of the financial wrongdoing associated with the 2008 collapse was a black guy.

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    I wonder what MAGA thinks of two guys with those names killing a white American man practicing his 1st and 2nd amendment rights properly on his own streets? Is there a limit to their hypocrisy? Are they just that insulated from actual news that they cannot even learn about it?

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      Because he was ‘in the way’ of them deporting other Mexicans for not assimilating enough fast enough.

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      Two Americans with Mexican sounding names killed an American.

      Are you sure you don’t work for ICE?

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                Not really, I was thinking the exact same thing when I heard the name. These ICE agents are exactly the ones that would be accused of being an illegal Mexican immigrant under the current way ICE is functioning, and it feels ironic that they’re the ones killing other Americans for ICE’s sake.

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                  If you’re first thought on hearing a Mexican sounding name is that they can’t be American you would probably make a good ICE employee.

                  It doesn’t matter if it’s hypocritical of them, it’s still racism on your behalf.

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              It’s ok that I’m racist to this person, because I don’t like them!

              So ironic, so progressive.

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                If my suggestion was correct, tell my how you think the other guy is racist when he doesn’t think they are actually Mexican?

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                  What.

                  Lmao. What do they teach in schools these days… I don’t think that your suggestion is correct. The person called them Mexicans because they had Latino names.

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      How do you know they’re Mexicans ?

      They are Spanish names they could be Venezuelan or Brazillian.

      They consider themselves to be European and a cut above the native American population in Mexico.

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    Oh god… This is SNL level embarrassment shit right there!

    What the heck are Hispanic people doing in the ranks of that demonic org?

    I guess there’s bad people no matter where you go, so that’s a simple explanation.

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      The leader of the Proud Boys was hispanic.

      The Right deliberately started including hispanics / Latinos as white people years ago. Note that I’m not saying anyone is or isn’t white, only that the “definition” of a terrible group was changed to capture votes. White supremacists can fuck off.

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      They get a $50k sign on bonus in 5 years, assuming Trump is still in power, and actually pays the bill.

      That’s alot of assumptions, but none of these shit for brains are too clever so who really knows what they were thinking.

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        Got some bad news for those folks. It’s 10K a year in good standing but if they fall out of good standing (a vaguely defined measuring stick) they have to pay back the bonus…going all they way back to signing.

        Just another assumption for them.

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        Pretty low dude. Historically some of the most racist groups toward 2nd generation Irish immigrants were 1st wave Irish immigrants. Humans are impressively fucking stupid which is why I don’t have any.

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          which is why I don’t have any.

          Come on, don’t leave us hanging like that. Any… Humans? Unicycles? Regrets?

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        SNL has had several skits regarding this sort of thing and the reaction of black people and white people to seeing themselves as causing trouble out on the streets.

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      I want to give props to the crew member who stayed involved and interacted with the dialog the entire skit.