Traffic collisions in the city of Los Angeles killed 290 people last year, and more than 150 fatal collisions involved pedestrians, according to Los Angeles Police Department data. It’s also 60 more people than died by homicide last year.
That means the city is far from the goal it set more than a decade ago of reaching zero such deaths by 2025.
Are we rooting for homicide, then? /s
Exactly what I thought. I hate cars but most car fatalities are accidental not intentional.
If we started charging car company executives with murder when people were killed on the road, we might get somewhere with reducing the number of vehicles.
. I hate cars but most car fatalities are accidental not intentional.
Is it ? Using that logic, a drunk driver killing somone is an accident.
The continued city design of enshrining cars as the primary mode of transport is intentional, people voting for politcans who are car brained is intentional, driving a car knowing there is a not insignificant risk of killing or hurting somone is intentional. Knowing this, a traffic death is really just manslaughter
Back in the 70s the Dutch rioted to remove cars from streets becase they were “accidentally” killing children, that’s the appropriate response to deaths of chikdren.
I hear you. Are the people at fault? Most definitely. Did they have the intent to kill? Mostly no; most people don’t think of consequences at all.
I was comparing to murder though. Something where you are intentionally try to hurt someone
Feels comparable to needless deaths due to health insurance. A special kind of negligence
Or at the very least owners of huge trucks. I have to drive super aggressively in my Miata cause I know half those mfers aren’t paying attention and even if they were, can’t see me in a lot of instances.
Only if the targets are billionaires.
And with the insane amounts of homicide in the US, this is quite telling
How many did ICE kill?
Tis but the USAian way of life!
Is there a country where there are more homicides than traffic fatalities…?
Helsinki had zero traffic deaths for twelve months. If those policies keep rolling out country wide, we should have it soon
So no, but that’s a laudable achievement and goal! I do hope it pans out!
There are several countries where homicide is higher than traffic fatalities, but it is usually ridiculously high homicide rates:
Countries Where Homicide Rate Exceeds Traffic Death Rate
Country Homicide Rate (per 100k) Traffic Death Rate (per 100k)
Saint Kitts and Nevis 64.16 23.1
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 51.32 4.8
Jamaica 49.44 17.8
Ecuador 45.72 23.4
South Africa 43.72 24.5
Haiti 41.15 31.3
Trinidad and Tobago 40.44 5.0
Saint Lucia 39.04 8.9
Lesotho 38.24 21.6
Bahamas 32.20 16.2Source:
https://www.who.int/data/gho/data/indicators/indicator-details/GHO/estimated-road-traffic-death-rate-(per-100-000-population)
https://www.datapandas.org/ranking/murder-rate-by-countryedit: sorry, i don’t know how to make tables on lemmy
Thank you, that’s super interesting! Wild to realize that the adjusted values for Saint Kitts and Nevis are twice as high as the actual number of traffic deaths / homicides (also shocking there were so many traffic deaths when there’s only ~1500 cars in the country)
(AFAIK lemmy markdown does not support tables)
The OP is about L.A, which is not a country but a city. So the correct question would be “is there a city where there are more homicides than traffic fatalities?”, and pdqcp has already provided you with one example.
Wow, rude? I asked the correct question: They made the claim that this was representative of the whole of ‘USAian’ culture (which I won’t argue isn’t true! It appears traffic deaths are higher than homicides in every US state), and I asked if there was any country where this ratio wasn’t the case - they’ve provided several sources which are quite interesting, and I am genuinely appreciative of them for doing so!
