I just checked and apparently Substack is still a Nazi bar
Substack pages are always crashing in my browser. I wonder why? Not really. I don’t care that much.
Organize more Antifa boxing clubs.
ANTIFA Beach party!
Those woke bastards are using bikes and nary a lifted F-350 to be seen.
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how do I stop this from auto-playing in my feed?
turn off autoplay
Maybe it’s an mbin / fedia issue, but don’t see where I can do that for videos. Also, it’s not all videos that this happens with. Somehow just the occasional newsreel. This one was even odder, in that the video never showed up, despite it playing. I sussed out with post was playing based on the content. It was playing despite showing as just a link to the article
This would be configured in the browser you’re using to access the site, not fedia’s preferences. So I can’t really be specific without knowing the details. But you should be able to either block autoplay globally or add an override for specific domain(s) as needed.
thank you for the tip! I found a browser setting that was indeed not properly set. hopefully that resolves it
Nazis are willing to meet men where they are.
leftist/liberals are not.
Why is it that men find Nazis more appealing, I wonder? It’s almost as if you treat people well they are more interested in hearing what you have to say…
There are definitely people on the left who revel in pushing narratives generalizing about white men as though they’re all villains. Those people are the equivalents of people on the right who push narratives generalizing about minorities as though they’re all villains. In both cases their views are harmful and destructive, and in neither case are those views correct or representative of everyone on their side of the spectrum.
But, you’re falling into the same trap of generalizing about a group from a minority of them with idiotic views. The last 15 years of social media and algos that promote the extremes have made that way too easy to do, for everybody. Moderate takes don’t pull views. Still, it’s wrong.
The binaries aren’t real. It’s not like the choices are either hate all white men or become a Nazi.
Also, not all men play combat or team sports. Lots of men’s lives are full with other activities that Nazis aren’t targeting. The Nazis just target these sports because they’ve always been spaces that are pretty permissive for the worst sides of bro culture to emerge. Regardless, real bros don’t let bros go Nazi.
Nuance, in my rage feed? Get out of here with that nonsense!
I applied to a couple remote jobs in Canada and was baffled when I go to the end of every single one, they had this questionnaire asking if you are everything except straight white male. Yeah Canada ya’ll gotta fix the systemic racism and sexism and create true equality otherwise just look a bit further south to see your future. Radicalizing individuals and saying that your “society is equal, just some are more equal than others” is a joke that’s been played out in history many times over, spoiler alert it never ends well.
Since ya’ll elected a corporate bankster on the same level as a Blackrock CEO, I’ll hit you with this one: "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.” - Benito Mussolini
The people who believe in binaries are very real and everywhere. I live in Boston and I encounter it in person regular. You can’t go to a party here without someone white rich people bitching about how rich white people are all awful and they aren’t one of them… and these people are always raging hypocrites if you confront them.
Can you elaborate a bit more about leftist and liberals not willing to meet men where they are?
Why is it that men find Nazis more appealing, I wonder? It’s almost as if you treat people well they are more interested in hearing what you have to say…
I don’t know about that. Isn’t it ego-stroking? If you say that they deserve things and the reason life is crappy is because of these “other” people then you create bonding over that?
If you say that they deserve things and the reason life is crappy is because of these “other” people then you create bonding over that?
This is quite literally how class war rhetoric draws people in. Just look at the memes in leftist spaces. Empathy, solidarity and universal human progress takes a far back seat to “eat the rich”.
Yep. Violence and death is great, when it’s against the people we don’t like. And bad when it’s against the people we do like.
And anyone who disagrees with us about who is good and bad, is a Nazi/fascist. But if we want to put people in camps and use the power of the state for violence and murder, it’s for good reasons!
liberal leftist discourse generally approaches men with the assumption they are already awful and must be reformed. especially if you are white and working-class. You are an ignorant sexist horrible person, until you have jumped through their hoops and read the relevant literature.
the white working-class guy is painted as a prototypical right-wing/nazi type, so if you have any of these traits, you are ‘guilty’ by default in the eyes of leftists. esp fediverse leftists.
ego stoking is how you get anyone to join your side. leftists blame other people for their own issues too, and stokes up their base by saying they are the only ‘good’ people.
As a white working class man leftists are great. I never have to explain myself and they accept me as I am.
I’ve never felt that I was portrayed any particular way by leftist discourse. Much of what we talk about is how to make the country better for working class Canadians. As should not be a shock, most leftist are working class, most are white. We’re largely a white working class country.
Neo Nazis approach young men who are confused and angry about their lot in life and give them simple answers. They’re not meeting them where they are, they’re flattering them by pretending the world is conspiring to destroy white men.
I spent 3 years in uni being screamed at, in my face often, about how awful I was for being white and working class guy. Glad you didn’t have that experience? But plenty of men do. But it was really hard not to become totally alienated by that. A few times I was threatened physically, because I ‘don’t look leftist’, whatever the fuck that means. I still occasionally have some nutbags approach me and scream at me about my perceived politics based on how I look.
The left needs to give people simple answers and stop pushing convoluted narratives about how how being white and male is inherently awful and oppressive and you must be ‘reformed’ of your whiteness and maleness.
More economics, less identity politics.
Glad you didn’t have that experience? But plenty of men do.
As a white male I also have never had that experience. Not have any of my other white male friends.
For something apparently so common it’s bizarre I’ve never seen it heard of a real case of it. Maybe there’s a different reason that people were yelling at you?
Maybe there’s a different reason that people were yelling at you?
Must you resort to personal attacks? Why assume anyone who disagrees with you is only doing so because of a character flaw?
Why assume anyone who disagrees with you is only doing so because of a character flaw?
When did I say anyone who disagrees with me has a character flaw? It has just been my experience that whenever someone complains that they are being discriminated against for being a white male, as soon as anyone looks into it turns out they got in trouble / got yelled at because of some action they had taken. As OP said: happens all the time.
Also note that saying “maybe that person was upset because of an action you had taken instead of the colour and shape of your genitals” is not a personal attack. I am neither condoning the yelling nor condemning some unknown action. I am presenting an alternative view to the scenario that has been presented with very little information.
I’ve never been beating to death by the police. No black friend I’ve ever had has either!
Clearly all those black guys who died from being beaten by the police, are liars! They must have done something to deserve having their neck leaned on until they died of asphyxiation! They must have deserved it! All those videos and court cases are clearly all lies and misinformation.
This is your logic and argumentation.
So now white men are being beaten to death for being white males?
All those videos and court cases are clearly all lies and misinformation.
Fantastic point: where are the video and court cases about white men being attacked?
The left needs to give people simple answers
How is tax the rich at the same rate as everyone else difficult?
How is universal healthcare convoluted?
You seem to be confusing leftism in general with economic leftism. they aren’t the same thing.
leftists in general, esp the vocal ones here on lemmy, tend to be authoritarians. They think taxing the rich and universal health care are neoliberalism/shitlib positions and we need to ‘tear the system’ down rather than reform it as a social democracy.
I’m sorry those two things are separate how?
Your sample size and methodology is suspect. Can you share more data other than “I feel”?
No you didn’t. That’s absurd.
More likely, they instigated hateful rhetoric and were called out on it. They didn’t understand that they were being called out for their hateful views and words so it’s easier to say, “they yelled at me because I’m a white cis man” when the truth would force introspection
They also claim to be persecuted for their hobbies. I think they have some personal issues that makes them feel persecuted all the time. I have a friend like that, it’s exhausting. Everyone really likes him but he thinks they don’t. I think it’s just internalized hatred.
I tried to talk to him about the way he talks about women. “You say things like women behave like this, or all women are like that, or I won’t have women on my boat anymore because they don’t listen”. To which he complained I called him a piece of shit and that I obviously hate him. “I love you dude, it’s harming your relationships and making your life harder, it’s a thing you can work on, all you have to do is hear what I’m saying.”
He can’t do that though. He’s just always already on edge because he constantly feels like he’s being judged and he still doesn’t realize the judging is coming from inside the house.
No, they yelled at me because they were horrible shitty people. Who think their leftist beliefs are so pure and good that they can do no wrong and anyone who remotely resembles what they don’t like deserves to be assaulted. Let alone anyone who is critical of their absurdly pompous beliefs about themselves that they are saving the world by being angry and hateful.
Or you are the typical head in the sand leftist who totally denies how highly problematic much of your cohort is.
Because if I wast a good leftist, that would never happen to me right? I must be a closeted Nazi, right?
I said I don’t believe you, and in response you called yourself a nazi. I don’t know what you are, but you seem to.
I don’t know why everyone’s so adamant that this can’t happen. I don’t see it that often, but at least in online spaces, I’ve definitely seen others being targeted for having the wrong genetics and not knowing enough about what life is like for those who look different from them. If you don’t encounter any of this, then that’s great. That’s what we want, and there’s probably nothing you can do differently to meaningfully change anything. But if we do see it, then it’s our responsibility to curb this kind of behaviour.
because it violates their black and white world view that one one side is good and the other side is bad.
and when their sides doe shitty things, they start saying it can’t be bad, it must be the victim of the shitty thing that is bad.
or put more simply, it’s the view that anyone who doesn’t agree with me is a Nazi.
It’s because you specifically are very obviously a liar. You didn’t spend three years being shouted at in university, it’s a crazy claim.
Are there shitty leftists, yes, leftists are people and people have flaws. The idea that the entire community is just people telling at white guys is a fabrication. It’s a fabrication pushed by people who want to excite hate on the internet. That’s why the conversation only ever happens on the internet. Make community and find help.
Because fascism feeds into a sense of entitlement. If you listen to any of them, it’s the grievances of white men who do not want to share.
You seem triggered.
Society is even worse.
Name me a single TV show where the man isn’t a moron, and where the woman is not the only functional adult in the relationship, and I could likely show you 100 shows where the man is portrayed as a moron and where the woman is the only functional adult.
Colour me naïve, but this narrative has got to be seriously f**king with gender relations, and how women are now overwhelmingly disrespecting men and what they bring to the table.
And this brainwashing starts in childhood, with shows like Peppa Pig laying the foundation for that life-long disrespect.
It also shows men how little they are actually valued long before they can bring anything of value to the table. It’s certainly been a factor of why other men around me have been disengaging from society and going their own way. Why bother if you are the pre-ordained baddie, and have zero ability to counter that messaging without being called a misogynist?
Name me a single TV show where the man isn’t a moron, and where the woman is not the only functional adult in the relationship, and I could likely show you 100 shows where the man is portrayed as a moron and where the woman is the only functional adult.
You appear to be characterising all TV shows as being family sitcoms with the “dumb husband” and “smart wife” dichotomy. You do realise this isn’t the only formula on TV, and is even less common than it’s ever been in terms of being made right?
Okay, so I was not specific enough. Let me rephrase:
“Name me any popular media that centres around a husband/wife or boyfriend/girlfriend dynamic, where the man isn’t a moron…”
There we go. Happy?
And notice the term “likely” in my prior comment. Don’t ask me to pick grains of sand off of a beach when you have the entire beach in the first place. I’ve got better things to do with my life than working through Brandolini’s Law; gesturing to that beach is as far as I am going to go.
Aside from distressingly rare well-written examples of healthy relationships such as Babylon 5, the “foolish husband, responsible wife” trope is almost everywhere. It even figures prominently in a majority of advertising that features couples interacting with each other.
“Name me any popular media that centres around a husband/wife or boyfriend/girlfriend dynamic, where the man isn’t a moron…”
I don’t know. I don’t watch that type of show personally. I honestly couldn’t comment. I know that it’s a trope, I also know that it’s a dated trope and that shows like that aren’t made that much these days. It’s a 90s/00s media trope.
Aside from distressingly rare well-written examples of healthy relationships such as Babylon 5, the “foolish husband, responsible wife” trope is almost everywhere. It even figures prominently in a majority of advertising that features couples interacting with each other.
Oh no, not advertising! Woe is me!
I will never understand this obsession and crying about how random couples are depicted in 30 second advertisement clips. I live with adblock so I genuinely never see any of this. It’s honestly such a laughable thing to cry about.
As for TV, since you’ve bought up Babylon 5 let me cycle through shows I’ve seen on the matter where this dichotomy is not true in regards to man-woman relationships: Turk and Carla in Scrubs, Jack and Anne Bonny in Black Sails, Flint and Miranda in Black Sails, John Silver and Madi in Black Sails, John and Aeryn in Farscape, Holden and Naomi in The Expanse, Ed Baldwin and Karen in For All Mankind, James and Cassandra in 12 Monkeys, Rick/Michonne in TWD, The relationship between the leads in Twisted Metal, The relationship between the older couple in Night Sky (unfortunately cancelled). It’s even true in the poorly-written Witcher (Geralt and Yennefer). Now are many of these setups strictly “husband and wife”? No. I don’t watch shows focused around those themes generally. But these are equal relationship setups where the man is not depicted as an idiot, and the woman not a genius.
Name me a single TV show where the man isn’t a moron, and where the woman is not the only functional adult in the relationship, and I could likely show you 100 shows where the man is portrayed as a moron and where the woman is the only functional adult.
The Good Place
Babylon 5
Star Trek (OS, TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT)
Stranger Things
Firefly
Sevrence
The Black List
Breaking Bad
Gravity Falls…You owe me 900 shows.
- https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FoolishHusbandResponsibleWife
- https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ParentingTheHusband
- https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HenpeckedHusband
And this is far from an exhaustive list. But it’s telling that this is a widely-known and ubiquitous trope, whereas its flip-side opposite is pretty much nonexistent.
In fact, the only references I could find were on the “foolish husband” tropes:
- https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20210615-why-tvs-most-toxic-stereotype-endures
- https://www.huffpost.com/entry/retire-the-bumbling-husband_b_5602054
- https://feministing.com/2012/08/24/the-doofy-husband-trope/
And Star Trek should not be on your list:
- OS did not include explicit relationships between main characters
- TNG series had only two historical relationships, neither of which were “active”.
- DS9 had Rom (last season), O’Bryan, and (in the early seasons as a bumbling romantic) Bashir. To a certain extent the trope even existed between Quark and his mother, in terms of her being financially successful and smart in ways Quark never was, although this was shown in just a handful of episodes and so doesn’t really count.
- Voyager had Paris, Neelix, and - to a painfully awkward extent - Kim. Plus, poor dude spent the entire voyage home as a f**king ensign.
- Technically Enterprise had Trip, who as a human was very emotionally foolish next to T’Pol.
Plus, the argument can be made that a few of your other choices don’t have a husband/wife relationship as a central/recurring feature between main characters, and as such are also ineligible.
The only solid mark that I see in your favour is Babylon 5, with Sheraton’s relationship with Delenne and Ivanova’s tragic relationship with Cole being exemplary examples that are shockingly rare in media.
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that’s not 900 shows
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your list includes things like;
Calvin and Hobbes: While Calvin’s dad isn’t exactly foolish (he’s a patent attorney) and just as irritated by Calvin’s antics as Calvin’s mom, there’s also plenty of strips showing him trolling Calvin by telling him outrageous lies about how the world works (such as the world being black and white until the '60s, or wind being caused by trees sneezing, or Calvin not being brought by a stork but a pterodactyl, etc.).
Which is notably not what you were complaining about.
- there’s a difference between it existing in some shows throughout the history of mankind and it being the overwhelming majority of television like you implied. Every show I listed was popular and well recieved. Your list includes Fan Fiction which isn’t even television.
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Yeah, you are not wrong. The content of media has radically changed from where it was a generation or two ago.
It also happens with class. Working-class people are no longer allowed to have any dignity or success in media. Everything is now upper middle class people or wealthy people and their emotional drama.
It’s not at all. A lot of modern TV is actually sci-fi/fantasy/dystopian that has nothing to do with specifically orientating itself around “wealthy people”. At least that is what I watch.
