• AA5B@lemmy.world
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    We all saw the Regressives cut Medicaid without caring that it meant millions of citizens losing their health insurance. With universal coverage we’d see similar but on a bigger scale. Regressives will always play up spite and self-righteousness , will always find a scapegoat who is “cheating”, will always play up high taxes being “bad for business”, plus of course we’d all like to pay less in taxes. We would still need the “face eating leopard” meme. Even then, it would be better for the rest of us, but it would still be the same fight

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    Many companies would lose profit. Many greedy fucks would not be able to afford their third yaht and fifth house.

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    If healthcare were decoupled from employment, Americans could protest in much larger number and for a longer period of time.

    A general strike would become viable.

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      and suddenly many people who have been wanting to start their own businesses, make that career move, or move to where the jobs are would finally feel secure enough to do so. I suspect this would boost the economy everywhere in ways it would be hard to predict.

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    A better life for 99.999999% of the country.

    The other 0.0000001% are already so wealthy that their life will be exactly the same except that they will be furious about the 99.999999% having an easier life.

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    my friend would get the blood pressure meds he needs instead of searching for magic pills at the health food store.

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    First and foremost this would be a HUGE boon for small businesses. They are currently hugely outclassed in offering benefits which hampers hiring. It’s also significantly more costly per employee for them.

    Second, huge boon for employees who can change jobs left and right regardless of life circumstances. Currently the best way to improve your wages and/or get promoted to a bigger position is to get a job at a new company.

    Third, huge boon for entrepreneurs who can now take bigger risks to start a new business because regardless of what happens, they don’t have to worry about losing their healthcare

    All of these things will have long term knock-on effects of leveling the opportunities for non wealthy people as well.

    I’ll say it for the millionth time. Every single stance the GOP takes is bad for small businesses, bad for the economy, bad for the country.

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      Very well said. My old man can attest to the struggle of running a small-business with a couple employees while managing the overhead of health insurance both for himself, and them.

      This is honestly how Democrats should be pushing it: We’re Pro Small-Business. (1) Entrepreneurship, (2) Innovation, (3) True competition, (4) Keeping money within communities… I could go on.

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      I’ll say it for the millionth time. Every single stance the GOP takes is bad for small businesses, bad for the economy, bad for the country.

      Bad for PEOPLE in general.

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      Don’t forget, the Democrats have never put universal healthcare on their agenda and they’ve rigged multiple primaries in order to prevent candidates who would put it on the agenda from winning.

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        The GOP is mentioned because they claim to be the party of small businesses and are overwhelmingly supported by small business advocacy groups.

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        thats because thats thier only carrot(single issue that convinces people to vote for them), they would lose that power overnight). thats why they always tease public heatlcare for all, and conspire with the republicans to derail those plans.

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          What planet are you living on where the Democratic party is using single payer healthcare as a carrot?

          Can I move to that planet please

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    People would have more job mobility. You could quit (or get fired) and not have to worry about becoming bankrupt due to healthcare.

    People that don’t have insurance will be able to seek aid. Less people will die of preventable illness. People can focus on getting better without the stress of “how will I pay for this? I’m ruined”

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      “Big news tonight. Congress has officially passed the Healthcare for All Bill with unanimous support, also, the Cleveland Browns have won the Super Bowl!”

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    Hope would exist again and every american could get back to pursuing happiness rather than lock in on survival mode only.

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      I’ve got a bowel obstruction 2 years ago and i had to pay 6k for my deductible and my insurance paid 12k. I got a tube down my nose, some xrays and stayed a night. I currently know its going to happen again any day now and it almost happend two nights ago and I was in horrendous pain. I could go to the doctor and they could probably help me and stop it from happening again. However, I dont have 6k to spare to find out. So until it is debilitating, we’ll just have to see what happens.

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        That sucks.

        Ive got shitty US insurance. Had to have the ol’ gallbladder removed. Hospital charged $40k. After insurance, my bill was less than $3k. Lots of people would be financially ruined by that math. Im thankful I had the $3k to pay.

        It’s hard out there, but at least we’re letting gun owners carry into Hawaiian grocery stores.

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          Ive got shitty US insurance.

          Which is actually the best kind of insurance for bowel obstructions.

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    Things happening to you medically would stop defining your life. I called for a check on something, get a date in 2 days and be scheduled for a radiology, all 100% free.

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      In Canada it’s more like 30 days or more, and you could expect a US single.payer system to be less efficient since it hasn’t been refined for several decades

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        The US would be switching to an entirely different system, but wouldn’t be able to “refine” it? What a bunch of unprovable bullshit.

        Also, if you think the US doesn’t already have waiting lists for specialists, then I honestly do not know what to tell you. Wait times are not a uniquely socialized medicine thing.

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          Yep, I’ve seen 6+ month wait times in the US for some of the specialists my kids have needed. Some of those were fairly urgent issues

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          The US would be switching to an entirely different system, but wouldn’t be able to “refine” it? What a bunch of unprovable bullshit.

          Not 10 minutes after they implement it, no. Canada has a mature system that’s been worked on for decades. Are you suggesting the US would be automatically better just because it’s the US? What are you, a MAGA?

          Also, if you think the US doesn’t already have waiting lists for specialists

          I’ve been to a variety of specialists, it’s never taken anywhere near a month. My understanding is that in Canada a month is the norm, sometimes longer.

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    More entrepreneurship. Plenty more people would work for themselves or start businesses if they didn’t have to worry about healthcare.

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    everyone would be in better shape health-wise.

    but also billionaires would lose money, which is why it’ll never happen as things are now

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      they would stop applying to grueling service/retail jobs/technician jobs, and probably focus career paths even if they already graduated with a degree, more money goes into taking more classes, or saving money for something else. i think these are one of the reason people are not in a field they supposedly studied in, of course you would need a efficient train/fast rail system in most states for it to work as well since most degree’d jobs are outside large cities most of the time, besides the job market being very poor for many different fields.

      most people are probably paying 600-1000+/month in premiums anyways, and they have to spend down thier DEDUCTIBLES and OOP to be fully covered, which most people cant unless you are chronically sick. the current subsidies make it less than that per month.