• Her last year has essentially been just throwing darts at a board and riding her time out. Allowing Altman to even enter this state pretty much sums up her current level of give a s***.

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    You’re reposting month old speculative nonsense adding nothing to what was already a nothing - can’t hear what is being said.

    You are, knowingly or not, regurgitating propaganda. Dip.

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      Was it a repost? I did do a search beforehand but didn’t find anything. Apparently many people were unaware that it happened.

      Clear the wax out of your ears if you’re having trouble hearing.

      You are, knowingly or not, denying the truth. Dip.

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        The other side tried to violently overthrow an election, is engaging in record fraud and government abuse, is led by a rapist who’s hiding the Epstein files, wants to overturn all civil rights achievements and destroy all workers rights, they illegally toppled a foreign government and are now stealing billions from Venezuela’s oil sales, and they are currently trying to rig US elections.

        They tried to overturn birthright citizenship, want to undo marriage equality, have sent armed thugs to harass democrat cities, they’ve called anti fascists and Democratic socialists dangerous violent leftists, and their dumbass tariffs and Iran war have essentially caused a voluntary global recession while oil and defense make record profits.

        I take your point but one side is still astronomically worse

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          The “otherside” is literally enabling everything you are saying here. You are being played, there aren’t two sides, there are zero for you.

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          The other side tried

          And the first side just sat around with thumbs up assholes, because they hate Palestinians and Transgender folks more than fascists.

          one side is still astronomically worse

          John Fetterman has far more in common with Ted Cruz than nearly anyone who voted for either of them.

          There’s two sides, alright. But these people aren’t on yours.

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        Harder and harder to say “Vote Blue No Matter Who” with that boot up your throat.

        Obviously we’re way past “Vote Blue no matter who” now. That effort was the last ditch attempt to stop fascists from taking power. If it had worked, it might have been possible to enact safeguards to protect the democratic institutions of the Constitution. Or might not, as it was probably already too late. But it was the last chance we had to prevent the fascist regime and try to salvage anything.

        Obviously it failed, and fascists/grifters/looters/christian nationalists/oligarchs now have complete control of the government. They’ll do anything to hold onto that power. We’ll know for sure in November, but working within the democratic election system to change who’s in power is basically futile at this point.

        So yeah, it’s nice to see that people have finally started supporting progressive candidates in many states and a lot of them are winning their primaries–but sadly it’s too late for that now. It’s what needed to have been done well before now, starting during Dump 1.0 at the latest, which was the final wake up call. But not enough people gave a shit until it was too late, and most still don’t.

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    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-midwesterner-bias-and-credibility/

    “RIGHT-CENTER” (Dogshit) “LOW CREDIBILITY”

    Don’t trust this to be anything more than AI.

    Why the fuck are you posting this garbage, yonderbarn? You’re not a nazi, are you?

    Edit: Not even Snopes could verify it.

    Your friendly reminder that there are nazis, russians, chinese, and israeli bots on here trying to stop people from voting Democrat in November. Please be mindful of these fools purporting falsely equivalent nonsense. Yes, Democrats have issues and I’m not even the biggest fan of Whitmer. But she and almost every Democrat would be orders of magnitude better than what is in office right now, or any Republican for that matter. And every single good politician from Sanders to Mamdani to AOC and so on just so happens to caucus or outright BE a Democrat.

    Edit 2: Now @yonderbarn@lazysoci.al is commenting on my 10-month-old comments and posts, haha, wtf?

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      Do we seriously have to insinuate that people are Nazis every half a second? Could we just like, instead, not do that? Here on the threadiverse?

      The point you’re trying to make is frankly weaker for it.

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        The truth is, their point is made weaker for using a far-right trash source with low credibility. Why they used that specific source should raise serious eyebrows.

        In fairness, I simply asked a question; how they responded reveals so much more. Though if you’re regurgitating the most fringe fucking garbage right-wing media points that just so happens to have wedge-drive the left, yes, I think that raises some red flags.

        I will continue to call such people out, and if they instead turned around and went, “Hey yeah you’re right, this source is dogshit and Snopes couldn’t even verify what was said in the video, so sorry for spreading this bullshit nazi trash” I’d say no harm no foul.

        Edit: By the way, I never said they were center-right; I was citing MBFC. Please, I encourage one to read more carefully. Though anyone with half a brain knows by the standards of Overton Window, that means far-right in US politics. If you disagree, then congratulations, you’re enabling fascism or should review the rightward trajectory of the Overton Window.

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          My brother in Christ you already described it as being center-right and now you’re exaggerating that to try and make your point more sailient

          I agree that its an irreputable source and that the quality of the source should always be pointed out. But if you seriously think using a less than reputable source on a link aggregator site when it confirms their biases makes someone a Nazi I’m pretty damn confident your bar is set cartoonishly low.

          I don’t care whether you think they have credibility, you can make your case that they don’t; calling anyone and everyone a Nazi still damages yours. Your point would be stronger sans that assertion.

          I didn’t downvote you, but I think you can see lots of others did-- I guarantee you’d be more well received if you left out the heinous personal attacks without adequate basis and just stuck to your very strong argument that the source is uncredible and not something we should trust blindly.

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            Brother in Christ, I didn’t down-vote you, but also, I don’t give a shit enough about your opinion anymore to care to read the rest of it. Sorry. Just being honest! I know the sort of tankies and righties alike on here and take zero stock in their down-votes lol. In fact, sometimes I see that is a net-positive :)

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              I didn’t downvote you

              Lmao

              Youre right, everyone who disagrees with you is a tankie or a right-winger (we have so many of those here). You should just never engage with critique in any form because youre obviously always right, and anyone who disagrees must either be stupid or arguing in bad faith

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                You should see his last post on c/asklemmy. He asked why people have been so quick to block him LMAO

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                Oh oops. Let me correct the misclick. Tell you what. I’ll even upvote you, since you clearly care so much!

                Also, thanks for confirming you’re fucking weird lol.

                Can you see what I tagged you, too? ;)

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                  If you downvote someone at the same time as you reply and theres only one downvote, deep at the bottom of a thread, it makes it really obvious it was you, even if activitypub didn’t publish votes publicly

                  Also, thanks for confirming you’re fucking weird lol.

                  Says the person crashing out on the fediverse and blatantly arguing in bad faith without knowing the activity pub standard makes all votes public, so its really easy to show you’re lying lol

                  Yes yes, I’m sure you think I’m a Nazi now too, we all know anyone you disagree with is, but for the record, no. Tagging users is private, at least to my understanding, though I don’t have a lot of experience with the feature- I’m not sure if the mobile client I use supports it

                  Have a nice day

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      If you read that whole page you linked to you would see they haven’t produced fake news so much as they consistently misrepresent facts to suit a conservative narrative.

      So arguing it could be AI means you failed to actually read their fucking reasoning for the low credibility and bias claims. None of it had to do with facts not being true, but rather presenting those true facts within a conservative narrative. Whitmer is mentioned several times, and in each case it was rooted in real facts but presented with a conservative slant.

      Screaming “fake news” is unhelpful.

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        Screaming “fake news” is unhelpful.

        Vetting sources absolutely is helpful.

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          It’s clear they didn’t actually vet the source or read what mediabiasfactcheck said then, because at no point did they make “fake news.” So the likelihood of this being AI is near zero.

          Taking the top line that some group made and not actually looking at the details is not vetting a source, it’s taking a quick glance as gospel. It matters that they don’t make fake news because it makes this video likely real.

          But I mean you do you if you just take a quick glance as gospel and don’t actually, you know, fucking read anything yourself.

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            You keep putting “fake news” in quotations like it’s something they said.

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            You’re not inspiring confidence in people here when purporting an obvious strawman fallacy. Please quote where I said they’re “fake news” as you put in quotes no less.

            Second, one demonstrates an unfortunately low level of comprehension skills, given I stated, “Don’t trust this to be anything more than AI” – which suggests by comparative logic that there are possibly other things I trust equal to or lower than AI.

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                No, it does not lol. AI can distort half-truths / half-lies, take things out of context, but yes can also fabricate entirely.

                Remember: LOW CREDIBILITY

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                  LMAO it’s a fucking video dude. You’re saying you’re NOT saying it’s AI while claiming it might be AI? What part of the video is real and what part is AI and what part is taken out of context. You’re just pulling shit out of your ass.

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          lmao, jesus. Sorry I asked you to read and ripped a hole in your pulled out of your ass AI theory.

          They don’t have a history of making shit up. They have a history of being extremely biased. This video has no commentary.

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            Soooooo no other source beside some shithole far-right subpar slop?

            Last chance!

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              Oh I’m sure there’s plenty of sources here for this obviously surreptitiously recorded video. /s

              Dismissing the source when the facts are real is in, a word, stupid.

              Why don’t you prove to me they have a history of making shit up? Oh yeah, because your own source proves that wrong, ding-a-ling.

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                Dismissing the source is a genetic fallacy. They comment on someone else creating a fallacy and cant see their own. Their cognitive dissonance is in over drive

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                LOW CREDIBILITY

                Should be easy to find a better source reporting on this, if vetted! Hell, even Fox News!

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                  I mean, things take time. The Drudge Report wasn’t wrong about Monica, he was just an asshole. Assholes can be right and still refer to facts but present those facts in a different ideological context.

                  but I clearly was never going to get through to you.

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      Dispelling the myth of a 2 party system is being a Nazi? Like Clinton said, you need a public and a private position, Whitmer’s private position is now public

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        False Premise fallacy. We’ve not yet established the premise to be true. You sure trust far-right sources an awfully lot.

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          And you sure distrust them despite there being zero evidence that they make up items like this.

          I would distrust their slant, but this is a video with no commentary. What slant is there?

          There’s a major difference between faking shit and misrepresenting shit.

          If their facts are still true, I don’t know what to say, but you do you man.

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          If it were fake as Whitmer claims they could have captured and provided the audio from one or several of the other cameras on them at the time. Theyve had over month to do something. SNOPES confirmed the comments. Democrats dont give AF about the working class anymore than republicans

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            Lots of Democrats do, actually! But that’s another topic. Be careful, lots of Russian and Republican trash on here trying to spread misinformation and stop people from voting Democrats, helping fascist Republicans win in November!

            Snopes only acknowledges footage happened and audio occurred but could not independently verify or make out what was said, which means anyone could use AI to inject what they want her to say. They left Unrated.

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              I’ll make it simple for you, democrats are fascist. Pointing out that BlueMAGA operates on the same frequency as MAGA isnt spreading misinfo, its breaking down their similarities.

              IF you read the story they confirmed what was said but couldnt clarify the context.

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      I’m not familiar with the outlet but heard about the story on Breaking Points. Since the sub requires an article, I just searched for one and this is what popped up.

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    Democrats are trash and the BlueMAGA that keep defending them are holding everyone back

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    The quote is near the end of the audio clip and is easier to hear than the first half of the clip. We need some audio engineers isolating her voice

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      Isolating vocals on a messy track would actually be closer to audio forensics, which is a pretty specific branch of the audio world. There are lots of specialized tricks that audio forensics experts can use, which would fly in the face of a lot of what traditional audio engineers would consider best practice. Because an audio forensics expert isn’t thinking about best practice for a mixed and mastered track, which is the mindset that most audio engineers would approach the problem from.

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    That literally describes any government ever. People will always say fuck no, just not all the people all the time. Some people all the time though because they hate the government no matter what.

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    Regarding AI data centers, China isn’t going to stop building them. Consequently, either the US and other countries build them or fall behind in AI. This should be explained to Americans. Whitmer wouldn’t be a good choice for the Democratic presidential nominee. Jon Ossoff would be better.

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      build them or fall behind

      Americans building data centers they don’t even turn on. They build centers that can’t afford the hardware to fill them. They build centers running dogshit inefficient algorithms. They build data centers that can’t turn any kind of profit. They build centers for CSAM. They build centers for bot farming social media. They build centers for drone striking elementary schools. They build data centers for mass producing AI slop to cover up the CSAM, the bot farms, and the child murder.

      Why do we want more of these things, again?

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        Yes. Remember what Robert Oppenheimer said, “I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.” The US had to make an atomic bomb before Germany.

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          Germany, the country that was building the Schwerer Gustav Railway Gun - siege artillery so big that they couldn’t actually move or fire it. And the MG 42 machine gun that blinded the gunner with its own exhaust. And the Me 163 Komet, which had enormous acceleration but less than eight minutes of flight time and a high risk of explosion during use.

          All of these would make good analogs to the modern American AI development cycle.

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            Good point but actually ‘Gustav’ could be moved by railway. It was used effectively in the siege of Sevastopol. The MG-42 was a deadly machine gun because of its high rate of fire. The Me 163 could still glide to catch the bombers after it ran out of fuel.

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      China is also building more efficient data centers that dont rely on near unlimited amounts of water and resources

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      It’s a race to the singularity, and whoever gets there first will create and control God. So we need to sacrifice everything to get there before the Red Chinese, or we’ll be living under a Communist Gangster Computer God. After all, sacrificing consumer goods, clean water and basic survival needs is a small price to pay for your only hope for a future.