See Drake Landing in Alberta 2012. They used sand storage to heat 52 houses with 97% efficiency. Worked for years, then they ripped it all out and switched to gas.
Toronto downtown office buildings are cooled by lake water in summer, cutting AC electricity by 75% and eliminated AC brown outs, since 2005.
A giant thermal battery storing heat instead of electricity is exactly the kind of engineering we need more of. It won’t replace lithium batteries or solve every energy problem, but district heating is a huge source of emissions in cold countries. Sometimes the smartest climate tech isn’t flashy AI: it’s hot rocks and good physics. 💪😎✌️
And the best part is, it’s not actually complex or expensive technology. Essentially it’s a big box with crushed stone in it.
That’s a huge oversimplification.
Exactly. That’s what makes it so compelling. No scarce minerals, no exotic chemistry, no billion Euro manufacturing plants. Sometimes the best solutions are the simplest ones.
Not to take away from the achievement, but how long can heat be stored though? Isn’t pumped hydro a better solution?
That’s enough to provide the 5,000 residents of Pornainen with nearly one month of heat demand through the summer — and roughly one week of demand in the winter.
from the article
So, basically it eliminates heating needs over summer, which is amazingly useful. But it doesn’t do much for winter.
That sounds crappy, but it’s probably a good 10-20% reduction in heating emissions, which is nothing to sneer at.
It does do something important in the winter: smooth out the irregularities on renewables. It’s not like you charge it up in September and then just expect it to carry you through to March. It means that your renewables just have to cover the demand some time this week, not at the exact moment the town wants the power. If there’s a high-pressure front that means you’ve got minimal wind for Monday through to Thursday, it’s fine, you just extract power from the battery and then re-heat when the wind picks up at the weekend
That does sound interesting. I’m curious though what the heat loss is while stored (I.e how much energy is lost over time with no energy being pulled)
They’ve got a quote from an Oxford uni professor of energy and climate policy in there who says it can store heat effectively for weeks. The manufacturer claims that it maintains about 80% of its “charge” if left for a month
One of the cool things about this design is that the bigger it is, the better it gets at storing heat. The square-cube law is in effect here, since heat can only be lost by leaving the silo at the outside whereas heat can be stored throughout the whole volume
Awesome. Thanks for that.
Apparently long enough for a Finnish town. The technologies aren’t really competitors: They’re complementary technologies for different jobs.
I think pumped hydro is already maxed out in many locations, and a lot more complex/expensive if you only need to store heat (and not electricity).
Also, some of us live in, for example, the Netherlands. Pumping two meters of water floods half the country.
And turning a valley into a lake is pretty terrible for the ecology. Adding pumps to existing hydroelectric dams is a great thing, but making new ones is… Hard to sell
Australia is using old mines, and has pretty much maxed out the supply of usable ones
Land of sauna, folks: crushed rocks and heat.
They end up opening the top hatch and pour water and the hot rocks
It’s a decent size. Only 13m tall and 15m diameter, and it can heat 5,000 homes for a week in winter or a month in summer. Very impressive, and can imagine something that compact working in urban environments too. For example, in the basement of a new apartment block.
