What? The car GM didn’t want to sell isn’t selling?
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GM can’t stick with an eletric car to save their ass. I remember the EV1.
GM doesn’t want to make cars.
Their current generation electric platform is optimized for small SUVs (Equinox, Blazer, Lyriq, Optiq, even the Honda Prologue and Acura ZDX), and their bigger electric platform for big trucks and SUVs (Silverado, Hummer) isn’t selling all that well, but is strategically important to them.
It’s easy for them to leave cars behind, because they haven’t made money selling cars in like 20 years.
This isn’t even a car though this is a small suv
At least they’re not forcing everyone to return these so they can be destroyed.
At least they had experience making everyone return their vehicles when their batteries were catching fire. 😅
At least is pulling a lot of weight. All they learned is not to make lease only cars because it was a PR nightmare
You could not pay me to drive a GM car.
When my parents were looking for an EV, I didn’t even bother looking at anything from an American brand. Chevy was all “No CarPlay or android auto in new EVs” And I was like “oh GM, please go die in a fire, you’re a waste of market space.”
My partner decided to take out a loan on his 2023 Chevy Bolt rather than pay in full, with the idea if the new model came out with features he wanted (mainly continued support for Comma self driving) he would do a trade-in. Then we saw the news that the new Chevy Bolt is basically a downgrade in terms of things like not having Android Auto anymore, so he just paid off the loan in full and has no interest in “upgrading.” Chevy shot themselves in the foot; US EV manufacturers need to get their shit together.
My past Bolt had carplay and android auto, did they change it? If so, dumb.
Yeah, in 2023 they announced that they would phase out CarPlay And android auto in EVs while continuing to support it in their ICE models starting with the 2024 Chevy Blazer EV.
https://gmauthority.com/blog/2026/09/gm-didnt-change-its-apple-carplay-and-android-auto-strategy/
But I thought no one wanted spyware in cars??
The Honda Prologue, which is basically a rebranded Blazer EV, still has Android Auto. But it’s also being discontinued after 2026.
Gas prices are reaching record levels and bringing the Bolt back is a “huge mistake”. Hard to wrap my head around any of this making sense outside of short term investor concerns.
It’s simple: China has been taking BEVs seriously for 20+ years and US companies (and govt) simply haven’t, so China has the better product. Once BYD etc sets up factories in Mexico, the BEV market is theirs and nobody will want to pay twice the price for GM’s inferior crap. It makes much more sense for them to squeeze what they can from a declining ICE market than to spend decades of losses trying to catch up to The King.
Cars in general are getting wildly expensive, so is insurance. It’s going to push people to own fewer cars and into accepting self-driving services like Waymo. You will own nothing and be happy.
No one can afford a detached house without an Hoa to install a charger
I installed a charger in my (townhouse-style) condo. I even run the cord under the garage door to charge in the driveway.
Most new 5-over-one apartment complexes include a handful of chargers.
A lot of parking garages are getting chargers installed so you can charge at work.
You still have to be able to charge at home or work, and you might have to get creative, but the options are a lot more plentiful these days.
HOAs do not prevent chargers or anything in your garage.
Most people don’t even need to install a charger.
If you have a normal 120V 25A circuit available, you can just plug in a 20A charger and get ~40miles every night. Unless you average more than 250miles a week on your car, you’ll be fine with a normal outlet.But with gas prices what they are today, even in an apartment, having to pay for public charging is quite a bit cheaper than gas.
Yep, my friends have been charging their massive electric Telluride SUV just from a standard outlet for like over a year now, I’m pretty impressed. Granted, I’m sure they also use EV charging stations when they’re out shopping.
This is what people don’t understand. If you live a US suburban lifestyle, the level 2 charger is a quality of life convenience but not required (let alone using public DC fast charging).
I have driven electric for over a year now and have done 90% of my charging overnight in my garage using cheap off-peak electricity, from a regular outlet. For the other 10% I spent essentially zero on public charging due to a charge credit package that came with the car lease.
Circuits in the US are not 25 amp. The standard circuit is 15 amp, with some being 20. The charger and car must also support a 20 amp draw, which most do not. The charger would need to have a horizontal pin to show that it’s a 20 amp device, blocking it from use in a 15 amp outlet. You also better hope that nothing else is on that circuit, because it will run at the limit.
40 miles per night is still accurate enough, depending on the car and how many hours it will be charging. It’s also the average daily commute, which means you have to charge every single night, no exceptions. And if you’re in the half of the population with a longer commute, you’ll be losing range each day, hoping to recover it by charging over the weekend. The end result is that you’ll spend a lot of mental energy thinking about charging and range, giving you even more range anxiety.
Can you make it work? Yeah, probably. But it won’t be the great experience that everyone with a level 2 has.
Source: Used level 1 for a few months while arranging the 240v installation. My bathroom outlets are on the same circuit, meaning no one can use a hairdryer while the car is charging.
True! I got my amp raitings confused. Was working off year old memory.
I have a 28mile commute. (typical in Albuquerque) I always plug in the car while parked at home. Just out of habit. Setup my 15A charger to go on/off with my local off peak schedule. I never think about it. Always a full battery.
And I don’t own a hair dryer.
And you don’t really need “hope” to make up extra on the weekends. You will.
Seriously. 250 miles per week. Or 1000 miles per month. Or 12,000 per year. If that sounds like you. You don’t really need 240V.Around 50% of the population (and the vast majority of homes) have a hairdryer.
And you don’t really need “hope” to make up extra on the weekends. You will.
Unless you go places and do things on weekends.
I’m glad it’s working for you. I really am. But you’re a bit of an outlier. You have a short commute, a home that’s wired favorably, and a lifestyle that’s compatible. You’ve also gotten comfortable with the setup. These are all factors well beyond the 12k miles/year average mileage.
I was looking at electric motorcycles a while ago, don’t drive but if I did they is probably what I would go for. User removable battery and not unreasonable to get a second one for extra range, or to have one charging while you use the other one.
Fair few options for 4 figure price tags. I wonder if you could get a sidecar too? Load it with batteries for 1000km range.
The US EV market is pathetic. Half of all EV sales are just two Tesla models. All the other auto makers are competing for the other half, of a shrinking pie. That pie isn’t big enough for Chevy to offer both a small electric SUV and an electric subcompact SUV, that’s in a similar price range. The Equinox EV is the better selling model so it makes sense they’d keep that one and ditch the Bolt.
But all the Lemmings complaining about affordable EVs are also full of shit. It’s a small, affordable EV, and no one is buying because it doesn’t have Car play , but everyone also doesn’t want a connected car and wants to drag an old Subaru out of a wrecking yard. $5 gas and people are still buying ICE, then they can post about unaffordability on Lemmy.
This is why car companies avoid social media because what people say they want and what they actually buy is very different.
people just dont want to deal with dealers
I didn’t even know it was back
Apparently, it’s not.
