Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez had called for a permanent cease-fire in the war between Israel and Hamas, but had resisted labeling the conflict a genocide.
Brave woman … if American history serves me right, people like her are liable to get themselves killed or conveniently die for speaking up too much or too loudly
I think it’s a bit hard as a politician to go all the way to calling something a Genocide. However, the laws we have about military aid don’t require going that far. Which is what pisses me off about this. It’s so egregious we would have stopped aid to any other country months ago.
You are not correct, but feel free to collect records and let us know why everything she said on the matter was inadequate. Start here, AFAICT her first remark is on Oct. 9: https://ocasio-cortez.house.gov/media
Let’s not whatabout them. If she had been turning a blind eye to it I think their comments would be justified regardless of how trash the rest of Congress is or is not. This person is just flat-out wrong, though, she did not wait 5 months to say something.
Ah, can you share an example of someone who has been saying something in the interim? That way you could highlight a politician we should be paying attention to who is doing a better job.
Also, is there logic behind your five month cutoff because I’d love to get some insight the rationale behind the opinion.
If American history serves me right people will be paranoid over whatever they’re told to be paranoid.
She’s actually more likely to be killed by a pro-palestine protester given how emotionally unstable the Hamas propaganda is making them. She’s already being harassed in the streets by them.
You first. You’re getting paranoid about the evil Jews assassinating a US politician.
If you don’t think the internet makes people emotionally unstable and you don’t think emotionally unstable people do crazy things, it may be because the internet has put you into an emotionally unstable state. Go outside and touch grass. Eventually Hamas will be forced to release the hostages one way or another and the death will stop. Civilian casualties in a war should be upsetting but understand there isn’t anything you can do about it. Falsely claiming genocide and trying to make a war drag on longer by cutting off supplies only makes things worse. It’s not going to end until the hostages are freed.
Yeah Hamas are psychopaths so they wouldn’t have any qualms about murdering hostages. But also they’re psychopaths and whatever they might say about wanting to be martyrs is just lies. A psychopaths will prioritize their own self preservation over anything else. Obviosuly they’re willing to put the Palestinian people at the mercy of an army they claim to be committing genocide while they hide underground like cowards.
But it’s possible they could release the hostages and make an exit through Egypt and survive. The question is how many Palestinian civilians they can let die (civilian deaths is a big money maker for them) before they make their escape to Qatar to live a life of luxury. It’s important to put a lot of pressure on Rafah by making it clear that the IDF is willing to fight in Rafah to force them into running away. The leadership of Hamas are cowards we know this by their actions so far. A strong showing of support for Israel will reveal the nature of Hamas (if October 7 didn’t already) and could result in a long term peace. But the effectiveness of Hamas’ propaganda on the west makes it more likely Hamas will continue their psychotic ways and this conflict will go on for another generation.
Brave woman … if American history serves me right, people like her are liable to get themselves killed or conveniently die for speaking up too much or too loudly
Either suicide with 2 shots in the back of the head, or a car crash
AOC has been mostly silent and very “soft” on the matter until recently. Better late than never I guess.
Brave? This has been going on for 5+ months and she is just now saying something.
Edit: My apologies, I am angry that she hasn’t called it a genocide.
This is not her first time speaking about it. She called for a cease fire on October 9th. So a pretty consistent position.
True enough. I stand corrected.
My current disagreement with her is that she hasn’t called it a genocide until March 22nd 2024. Up until March 5th (https://www.thejc.com/news/usa/aoc-tells-pro-palestinian-protesters-to-back-off-rrab8k4j) she was publicly being milquetoast with her rhetoric.
I think it’s a bit hard as a politician to go all the way to calling something a Genocide. However, the laws we have about military aid don’t require going that far. Which is what pisses me off about this. It’s so egregious we would have stopped aid to any other country months ago.
You are not correct, but feel free to collect records and let us know why everything she said on the matter was inadequate. Start here, AFAICT her first remark is on Oct. 9: https://ocasio-cortez.house.gov/media
I should have said she has not called it what it actually is, a genocide.
Alright. I am also dismayed that it has taken so long for members of the government to call genocide by its name, we’re aligned on that.
Thanks for links with her statements. Cheers
Are there other US representatives or senators that called this war a genocide?
There is not. So she is the first and only of the 435.
Doesn’t take away that it took her 5 months to call it that when it was obvious that it was a genocide at a much earlier date.
Let’s not whatabout them. If she had been turning a blind eye to it I think their comments would be justified regardless of how trash the rest of Congress is or is not. This person is just flat-out wrong, though, she did not wait 5 months to say something.
Ah, can you share an example of someone who has been saying something in the interim? That way you could highlight a politician we should be paying attention to who is doing a better job.
Also, is there logic behind your five month cutoff because I’d love to get some insight the rationale behind the opinion.
No, I am addressing AOC here and not anyone else.
My (corrected) point is that it took her 5 months to call it a genocide. That is the point. It was obvious way before that.
If American history serves me right people will be paranoid over whatever they’re told to be paranoid.
She’s actually more likely to be killed by a pro-palestine protester given how emotionally unstable the Hamas propaganda is making them. She’s already being harassed in the streets by them.
You should go outside.
You first. You’re getting paranoid about the evil Jews assassinating a US politician.
If you don’t think the internet makes people emotionally unstable and you don’t think emotionally unstable people do crazy things, it may be because the internet has put you into an emotionally unstable state. Go outside and touch grass. Eventually Hamas will be forced to release the hostages one way or another and the death will stop. Civilian casualties in a war should be upsetting but understand there isn’t anything you can do about it. Falsely claiming genocide and trying to make a war drag on longer by cutting off supplies only makes things worse. It’s not going to end until the hostages are freed.
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Yeah Hamas are psychopaths so they wouldn’t have any qualms about murdering hostages. But also they’re psychopaths and whatever they might say about wanting to be martyrs is just lies. A psychopaths will prioritize their own self preservation over anything else. Obviosuly they’re willing to put the Palestinian people at the mercy of an army they claim to be committing genocide while they hide underground like cowards.
But it’s possible they could release the hostages and make an exit through Egypt and survive. The question is how many Palestinian civilians they can let die (civilian deaths is a big money maker for them) before they make their escape to Qatar to live a life of luxury. It’s important to put a lot of pressure on Rafah by making it clear that the IDF is willing to fight in Rafah to force them into running away. The leadership of Hamas are cowards we know this by their actions so far. A strong showing of support for Israel will reveal the nature of Hamas (if October 7 didn’t already) and could result in a long term peace. But the effectiveness of Hamas’ propaganda on the west makes it more likely Hamas will continue their psychotic ways and this conflict will go on for another generation.