All the principled pirates have jumped ship to lemmy so it was bound to happen sooner than later.

  • Mothra@mander.xyzEnglish
    1364·
    5 months ago

    I’m concerned about this comment in the linked Reddit post.

    What does it mean, “same mods”? What about “safety”? Can someone clarify?

    • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPMEnglish
      288·
      5 months ago

      I used to be top mod of piracy until the reddit blackouts last year, where I was demoted by the admins in a secret coup. I was reinstated by other mods, but have been idle since.

      sunbothersco is also the top mod in /r/piracy and it mostly maintaining the megathread but is not very active in lemmy.

      We absolutely will never boost posts for money here.

      • Mothra@mander.xyzEnglish
        77·
        5 months ago

        Thanks. That’s interesting, I didn’t know the mods here were mods there too. I believe people here wouldn’t be letting things fall apart (there is a reason people moved away from Reddit and the quality of content here is proof).

        I was surprised to see those comments implying the megathread was no longer reliable though, I figured it was a stretch but had no idea why would they be thinking that.

        • recursive_recursion [they/them]@programming.devEnglish
          26·
          5 months ago

          That’s interesting, I didn’t know the mods here were mods there too.

          tbh I wouldn’t be surprised if this was the case cause after reddit’s self-made implosion with the API access debacle, the majority of us migrated to (fediverse instances such as) mastodon and here

      • sadbehr@lemmy.nzEnglish
        17·
        5 months ago

        Just wanted to say thank you for your service over the two platforms.

      • rglullisAEnglish
        2712·
        5 months ago

        To be quite honest, I wouldn’t mind sponsored posts as a way to support a community or instance, as long as they were completely disclosed as so and if the sponsor had no control over the moderation.

        • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPMEnglish
          65·
          5 months ago

          If we get instance sponsors it will probably in the instance sidebar, but for now we don’t quite need them

          • rglullisAEnglish
            1122·
            5 months ago

            No one is forcing you to see them, especially given that this is an open source system with open source clients.

            Also, how much are you paying/contributing to the developers, admins and moderators in order to avoid the need of alternative methods of funding?

            • sorghum@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              141·
              5 months ago

              I’ve been saying this for over a year. The era of free stuff on the internet is coming to a close. Be prepared to pay or self host things you’re used to getting for free. It’s what got me into self hosting.

              • bizarroland@fedia.io
                8·
                5 months ago

                I mean, you’re definitely not wrong. All of these mbin sites are typically pretty small but once they cross the point where you’re looking at getting a second server to keep the site running then prices start to escalate.

                Modern servers are pretty good but I believe depending on how well the software is written that should be somewhere around 10,000 concurrent users.

                If they are using cloud hosting their prices will escalate alongside their user counts but if they are using co-location or something like that they have to go out and buy additional boxes at the cost of several thousand dollars a piece and pay for extra space in the colocation center.

                They should definitely make it easy for us to contribute to running the site or at the very least do regular planned donation drives kind of like Wikipedia.

              • rglullisAEnglish
                4·
                5 months ago

                I agree so much with you, I am running a commercial provider for Fediverse services for almost five years. The problem is that we are still a very tiny minority relative to the amount of internet users.

      • Yglorba@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        2·
        5 months ago

        Most likely this incident is an indirect result of that coup. After that, they had to rapidly replenish the mod team and didn’t have time to vet people, so they ended up with someone like this.

        FWIW my recollection from looking over sunbothersco at the time was that they were a clout-seeker with no meaningful history on /r/piracy - they were repeatedly and aggressively asking to be made top mod of a wide variety of subs at the time, with no real connection between them. It sucks that reddit was forcing out top mods, but I wish they’d at least followed through on their threat to make it democracy, since there’s no way we would have ended up with someone like that if the system had been anything but “randomly hand the sub to whoever asks first and loudest.”

      • secret300@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
        1457·
        5 months ago

        We absolutely will never boost posts for money here.

        Can’t wait to look back on this comment in a few years

    • fin@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      51·
      5 months ago

      It seems that all posts/comments advocating migration to Lemmy are downvoted there. It’s truly sad that they still don’t realize Reddit is not a safe place anymore to talk about piracy and stuff

      • the post of tom joad@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        343·
        5 months ago

        It may be selfish but i don’t want a reddit migration. I don’t hate redditors cuz i was one (ok i do hate em but only the regular hate redditors have for each other) but if this place became as popular as that one, it would bring with it the things i deliberately left behind.

        Lemmy is great the way it is

        • Anon518@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          22·
          5 months ago

          I don’t think so. I think Lemmy already & inherently has many of the same problems. People are people, no matter where you go.

          Lemmy is only better because it’s not centrally controlled.

          • CALIGVLA@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            7·
            5 months ago

            The problems would only get exacerbated if more of them migrate over here, that’s the issue. I don’t think decentralization would solve the issues that’d come with people mass redditposting and shitting all over the place, especially considering the vast majority of users are in lemmy.world, so what good would that do when the majority of the userbase are centralized in a single instance?

            • Anon518@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              3·
              5 months ago

              The problems would only get exacerbated if more of them migrate over here, that’s the issue.

              I doubt that it would make Lemmy significantly worse. I’ve already had to block nearly a hundred lemmy communities for containing the “mindless trash” that is abundant on reddit. The reality is that most people aren’t smart and don’t want to browse and participate in intellectual content. They want to mindlessly scroll through endless memes. I have not observed that people on lemmy are overall more intelligent than people on reddit.

              • CALIGVLA@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                4·
                5 months ago

                I have not observed that people on lemmy are overall more intelligent than people on reddit.

                Because it’s literally the same userbase, 99% of people here came from Reddit for one reason or another. It’s a fact that any community that grows too mainstream starts to decline in quality, so if you think Lemmy already has too much garbage you really don’t want it to become mainstream. Proportionally we have way less spam, astroturfing and just idiotic bullshit being posted outside of meme subs here, attracting more users would make all of these things more prevalent and no amount of decentralization would solve that unless people started to mass defederate, but at that point why even bother with activitypub in the first place. It’s kind of like the people in Beehaw that not only chose this platform but also want to federate with other instances but they’re constantly crying and complaining about other instances, threatening to leave the platform… Like, why even bother with activitypub?

        • Blxter@lemmy.zipEnglish
          18·
          5 months ago

          I’m of the belief that more people more opinions wether you agree or not with them is always better. Reddit and here on Lemmy is both an “echo chamber” of there own making.

          • the post of tom joad@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            10·
            5 months ago

            I’m of the belief that more people more opinions wether you agree or not with them is always better

            Right on brother.

            As to the second part, I guess i see what you’re saying. Reddit had its own hidey-holes and echo chambers where you could hear different opinions, not so different from here. Federation and defederation between instances act in much the same way (perhaps due to lemmys small size) as the effect as staying in a few niche subreddits. Traversing between instances is familiar, not too different than leaving your sub and scrolling /all.

            Hmmm. Hmmm. I guess you’re right, at least the way i use(d) them.

            Perhaps the only difference between them is reddit’s success and enshittified corporate rent-seeking. Those guys all sound the same and end up making a place same-y and sterilized

          • the post of tom joad@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            12·
            5 months ago

            In my single year here I’ve seen what i consider some of federation’s limits. It’s still too easy to fed and defed their way to an echo chamber, which to me is it’s own type of toxicity.

            But you’re right because the answer to that is multiple accounts, whereas in a centralized server there are fewer players dictating and therefore fewer options.

        • GluWu@lemm.eeEnglish
          5·
          5 months ago

          Same, there’s still plenty of room for growth but I don’t want it to ever pass like 2012 reddit level of activity, which was still a lot. But federation tech is also a solution if I ever feel that’s a problem so meh, come on over.

    • mr_right@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      9·
      5 months ago

      look at that idiot, typical redditor behavior talking shit from their ass as if they are experts on what they are talking about

  • InfiniteGlitch@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    991·
    5 months ago

    I honestly see no reason to use Reddit for its Piracy Megathread. Lemmy’s user base is much more friendly, helpful and the Megathread here is the same (if not better) organized than there.

    Not only that, I remember there was quite some problems among the mods on Reddit. So I’m not surprised something like this happened. Once there’s a slight fracture, it’ll slowly but steadily get broken into pieces entirely.

    I don’t see much decent content on both Piracy and PiratedGames subreddit anyway. Majority is memes, ‘is this safe’ and spam posts about empress.

  • Brickfrog@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    53·
    5 months ago

    That’s some low effort spam, no wonder even Reddit’s default spam filter caught it and that mod had to manually approve it. Back when I was helping mod on Reddit we used to see that sort of discord link spam nearly every day. Just spam/removed it & moved on.

    The sad thing is that r/Piracy mod likely got scammed himself. Besides that mod who would really believe a scammer is going to send $800 via PayPal of all things? Most likely some sort of scam/hacked account, the payment will be reversed and that mod’s PayPal account may get locked/banned in the process.

  • Beaver@lemmy.caEnglish
    441·
    5 months ago

    It’s harder for corruption and lawyers to target multiple instances rather than one centralized location

        • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          112·
          5 months ago

          Crowdstrike is not owned or in any way in a business relationship with Microsoft, offers the software that caused the issue for Mac and Linux as well, and in fact caused similar issues on specific Linux Distros a few months before this recent cock up.

          The issue only effected Windows OS machines that were running the Crowdstrike Falcon endpoint protection software, which runs at ring 0, kernel level. This presents the same potential for causing boot loops in all OSes due to the nature of running software that deep into the guts of things. The only caveat is that some Linux Distros have separation preventing things from running at that low level, and apparently so does Mac OS.

          The update was not pushed out through Microsoft, as many are incorrectly repeating. It was a malware definitions update which was downloaded automatically by the Falcon software itself, without any configuration options available for admins to stage and do partial rollouts for testing.

          Also, I significantly doubt that any company is going to do a complete overhaul of its IT architecture to switch over to a new OS for end user devices, when the simplest solution is to just switch to a different endpoint protection software. I’ve worked half a decade in an enterprise architecture type position, that simply isn’t how things work in this world.

      • threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        2·
        4 months ago

        Thanks for linking the Reddit thread. I tried to do my part to spread the word. The more people talk about Lemmy on Reddit, the more people users will switch.

    • Azzu@lemm.eeEnglish
      9·
      5 months ago

      Of course getting people over from reddit is nice, but honestly the exact same thing can happen here as well. We’ll always depend on the integrity of the people with mod status.

  • LiveLM@lemmy.zipEnglish
    39·
    5 months ago

    Man, what a joke Reddit has become after the 3rd party exodus, seems like most good subs went to shit.

    • Scrollone@feddit.itEnglish
      20·
      5 months ago

      Luckily this lead us to Lemmy and the Fediverse, which – in my opinion – is more akin to Aaron Swartz’s original vision.

    • Nangt3c@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      5·
      5 months ago

      IMO this has nothing to do with the 3rd party stuff, stupid mods getting scammed for $800 has nothing to do with Reddit decisions

      • realitista@lemm.eeEnglish
        14·
        5 months ago

        Well if all the good mods leave and you only have the bad ones left or people who come in just to profit, you get this.

  • CALIGVLA@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    25·
    5 months ago

    Out of curiosity, is our megathread the same as theirs? If so, it might be time to make our own independently of theirs.

  • Algernon@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    11·
    5 months ago

    I thought I wasn’t gonna give a shit about this, but it was quite enjoyable. Too bad, so sad! Looks like that guy’s discord is now well known for the wrong reasons…