The belief that Israel’s actions amount to apartheid, ethnic cleansing and genocide are “worthy of respect in a democratic society”, an employment tribunal has concluded in a landmark decision.

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    The problem of anti Zionism is that those of us who oppose apartheid ethnostates regularly have to stay alert less those who just hate Jews claim to be with us

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      Although, some racists love Israel. Pro-Israel groups pay Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, a notorious racist in England, and while he hates immigrants (despite being the descendants of Irish immigrants) he specifically supports Israel.

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    “Zionists are troubled by people complaining about them genociding people, and apparently there something called the ‘freedom of speech’”

    That headline feels very… very… something.

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    This isnt anti zionism though. This is just anti genocide or simply humanism. Anti zionism is most likely calling for an other genocide or you better come with a solid plan to relocate millions of israelian that will not move.

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      That’s an awful lot of words to say “I don’t know what Zionism is”

      Anti-zionism isn’t opposition to Israel or Israelis existing. It’s opposition to Israel existing as a colonial apartheid ethnostate that oppresses everyone not of the favored ethnicity and religion.

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        Did you check the first reference to the article you linked. There is a less modern , more widely used prior definition that just explain what zionism is. Zionism is just thinking israel as a state can exist. If you oppose the existance of a state with one of the strongest military in the world , chance is you might have to fight some people. Maybe you guys dont agree on the same definition of zionism. Antisemitism seems to do that. I cant care less about israel existing or not , or is it legitimate. Im just saying they arnt going to agree to leave their country. You guys are delusionnal.

        And yes . By EVERY DEFINITION, really every, antizionnism oppose the state of israelnas a concept. Two state solution still imply zionism. You guys discovered this conflict last years and still need some catch up.

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      Anti zionism is most likely calling for an other genocide

      Thanks for the strawman, it’s getting cold so I can use it for fuel.

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      Anti genocide became inherently anti zionism when zionists decided that genocide would be their tool to reclaim the holy land.

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      Ya remember that genocide after the apartheid South African state fell and was transformed into a state for everyone? That’s why you don’t see any South Africans nowadays. And they certainly never clog up my news, technology, and politics feeds with their inane opinions and dumb-looking trucks…

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        Exactly this, same with the Good Friday accords. There’s always a political solution available, and if it’s actually acceptable to both sides, they won’t feel they need to resort to terrorism.

        If you gave Palestinians an actually viable country, they’d accept that.

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          And if there is still (now domestic) terrorism you handle it like a normal country and not by bombing everything to ashes.

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      No, that isn’t anti-zionism. Calling for the end of an ethnostate does not require the expulsion, relocation, or death of folks who are currently citizens of that state.

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        Bro they have one of the strongest military on earth and are properly radicalized. How do you think they are going to take it ?is everyone a lunatic there or just completely naive ?

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        Well, in reality it will, of course, come to that. But you’re right that hypothetically there could be other ways