The parallels between Musk and Stark seemed perfect on paper. Both are billionaire tech innovators with a flair for the dramatic and dreams of changing the world.

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    Are people ready to admit that characters like Tony Stark and Bruce Wayne has always served to propagandize the idea of “genius millionaire/billlionaire” capitalists despite the fact that no such thing has ever existed in reality?

    And that this propaganda is partly the reason why parasitic fraudster racketeers like Musk, Gates and Bezos gets to get away with their gargantuan crimes against humanity?

    No?

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      are you ready to admit that fictional characters exist in fiction because it gives an escape to readers to fantasize about themselves as the hero?

      get over yourself bringing all that hatemongering in here.

      you think you offer a special perspective that none of us have that pertains to the widening of socioeconomic gaps between the rich and poor? yeah we get it, “rich man bad!”

      calling comic book characters propaganda, what’s wrong with you?! you think the writers of these characters have some kind of secret cabal where they purposely write great things about rich people just to make actual rich people look good?!

      your perspective is skewed and you need to re-evaluate it.

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    Stark actually was intelligent though. He really invented all the stuff he used, he earned the right to be a bit of an arse.

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      Yeah.

      Elon bought the title of founder of Tesla. He’s not a fucking inventor, he’s a leech.

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    Well, Stark is actually a fictional character in a genre that too often uses the term “smartest X alive” when that’s not how intelligence works at all. Also, like others have said, Howard Hughes is more likely the inspiration for Stark. That being said, the closest irl “tech savant” I can think of is John Carmack.

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    Tesla’s CEO; The Inspiration For Tony Spark

    Elon “Baby-Brain” Musk as the inspiration of “Tony Spark” the cheap knock-off Tony Stark.

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    When Stan Lee created Tony back in the 1960’s he probably took his inspiration from Howard Hughes.

    Hughes had been the inspiration for a famous novel of the time, “The Carpetbaggers.”

    HH was played by Leo DiCaprio in ‘The Aviator.’

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      Yeah but Musk in the MCU got Thanos-snapped and the Avengers wisely left him out when they snapped everyone back

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    The parallels between Musk and Stark seemed perfect on paper. Both are billionaire tech innovators with a flair for the dramatic and dreams of changing the world.

    They’re not, though. Stark is a rare engineering powerhouse who personally pushed past a lot of engineering boundaries, and Musk is an investor/programmer who mostly puts his name on existing things.

    I might change my mind if Musk personally invents AGI, nanobots, and a previously-unknown clean energy source capable of powering a 1/3rd of NYC with a room no larger than a foyer, like Stark did, but I’m not holding out much by way of hopes.

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    10 hours ago

    Clicks link

    The very first word in the article is a glaringly obvious fucking typo. Why on earth would I want to read anything that website has to say?!?

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    His cameo in the 2nd Iron Man movie always felt so cringey to me. I don’t know how it came about, but I like to imagine Musk asked the production for the role. It is so clear to me that he desperately wants to be seen as the man who will single handedly save the world. His companies do incredibly impressive things, I cannot discredit the work of SpaceX, but the more he speaks, the more I am convinced that he is just an egomaniac cosplaying as a genius.

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      I don’t know how it came about

      iirc the facility that we see housing the evil iron man ripoff suits was a SpaceX facility irl

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    Hey vocal.media why not proofread your articles a little better? The first letter is a typo, never seen that before.

    Un an interview that’s got everyone talking, Robert Downey Jr has finally addressed the elephant in the room; those persistent comparisons between Elon Musk and the character Tony Stark.

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    Elton never invented anything, he’s skated on other’s success. He’s more the evil partner from the first Iron Man using others’ inventions.

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      Now now, Elon does technically have one patent to his name personally.

      Its the shape of the charging port for Teslas.

      He patented this with the idea that if he ever did actually build out that massive EV charger network, he would basically be owed royalties if it successfully became the USB C of EV charging ports, so himself personally would be owned royalties if other car companies wanted to use that charging port shape.

      But that was like a decade ago, and last I heard he fired the entire team at Tesla dedicated to the charging network.

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    He should follow Stark and sacrifice himself for humanity.

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    I don’t see it. Elon is a sociopath and doesn’t care about people at all. He is autistic as well. The man would easily sacrifice others in a crisis, not fight for them.

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      Autistic people are generally the opposite from sociopaths, relative to norm.

      However, we do, existing with ratio of like 1 in 200 people, get the experience with non-autistic people that makes us think of them similarly to how non-autistic people think of sociopaths.

      As an autistic person, there are many cases about which I’d say that if I had the opportunity to press the red button sending nukes, I would press it, but in fact I most likely wouldn’t, because autistic people are generally less compromising on justice and honesty. The decision to, say, sacrifice one good person to punish 1000 bad people is much harder for us than for “normal” people.

      “Normal” people usually consider this trait a weakness, but then have the gall to accuse us of lacking empathy.

      Also autistic emotions are stronger too - we just learn to control them, because otherwise it’s be impossible to function. When you read something about homeless people, you just add that to your inner narrative of how your group is good and the other group is bad, you generally don’t think about the matter itself. When we read something about homeless people, we feel ourselves on their place and temporarily lose the ability to eat, sleep and enjoy life.

      However, getting back to your point - in things requiring one to be a better person autistic people are almost always better. It’s a fact of the “you’d never have thought” genre exchanged in autistic communities that there are, in fact, bad autistic people. That’s how rare it is.

      I hope I have educated you.

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        Give anyone a ton of money and power and eventually they will turn into a sociopath. “Anyone” includes autistic people. We are not magical fairies immune to the basics of human corruption.

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        I’m in the process of being diagnosed as an adult, and I feel very validated as I relate to this very much.

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        Thank you, but is it really fair to say they all autistic people are like you describe? Just like non-autistic people, there should be a a variety of behaviors in autistic people as well?

        I was talking about Elon Musk here, not all autistic people.

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          Pathological or caused by some condition traits are the big, notable ones. And personal differences are more subtle.

          Just like, say, serial housing - Soviet microdistricts look all the same on the plan and even from the outside, and there are common tendencies with small crime and all that. But, of course, people living in each one of them are different, so is graffiti on the walls, illegal construction, potholes and pits, trees and bushes, garages, shops and playgrounds.

          I was mostly talking about things which are specific to what autism is.

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            Well, you were talking about the positive aspects of autistic people only. Maybe it’s hard to notice that, but it sounds almost like you think they are a better version of non-autistic people. From my perspective, that’s not really how it is… :) Autism or not, people can have a lot of negative personality traits that make them a pain to be around.