Cyberpunk 2077 2.0 Update: Phantom Liberty | Linux VS Windows Performance Tested
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Cyberpunk 2077 2.0 Update: Phantom Liberty performance tested across Windows and Nobara OS.Video Timeline:00:00 - In Game Settings on Windows 11.00:33 - In G...

The YouTube channel “Maximum Fury” conducted a technical test of the new Cyberpunk add-on called “Phantom Liberty” on an older AMD hardware system, testing it separately on Linux and Windows 11. The Linux system, specifically the Fedora distribution called Nobara, performed significantly better, delivering 31% more frames compared to Windows 11.

The hardware used for testing included an Asrock B550 motherboard with an AMD Ryzen 5 5600 CPU and an AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT GPU from the first RDNA generation, along with 16 GB of DDR4 RAM. The CPU, RAM, and GPU were overclocked, and the system utilized undervolting to save energy costs.

When testing the game at 1080p resolution with high textures, the Linux system achieved an average of 63.72 frames per second (fps), while Windows 11 managed only 48.55 fps. This suggests that the game should run noticeably smoother on the Linux system.

    • Psythik@lemm.ee
      612·
      1 year ago

      Also no HDR, either (not supported by the OS). You’re not getting the full Cyberpunk experience without HDR and Ray Reconstruction. But I suppose that people with an older PC and monitor would benefit by switching to Linux.

      • PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee
        416·
        1 year ago

        I already got the full cyberpunk experience 3 years ago, and it was terrible. Making the game prettier doesn’t make it any less of a joke.

        • Psythik@lemm.ee
          51·
          1 year ago

          I used to say things like this too, but then I played 2.0.

          Surprisingly it’s a proper game now. They turned the game into GTA in the future, and that’s a good thing. Also the perk system was completely overhauled, and weapons rebalanced so that you actually have to do more than just grab whatever has the highest DPS.

          The story’s the same, but everything else is completely different. Give it another chance.

          • PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee
            15·
            1 year ago

            I’ve tried it. It absolutely is not “GTA in the future”. It’s just as shallow as it was at launch.

  • greyjedi@lemmy.world
    392·
    1 year ago

    What are the chances that it’s just not rendering something due to the DX12 to Vulkan translation?

          • Rustmilian@lemmy.world
            1·
            1 year ago

            But that’s not exactly relevant.
            DXVK 2.2 added D3D11On12 which could probably then be used by VKD3D or D3D12 so I suppose it does support DX12 indirectly.
            However DXVK itself doesn’t support DX12 native games like Cyberpunk 2077.

  • NBJack@reddthat.com
    292·
    1 year ago

    Windows 11 is trash. Microsoft kept boasting it was “faster” than 10, but it is (unsurprisingly?) heavy in some weird areas, including a less snappy start menu, more telemetry, invasive integration with their software, you name it. Tried one machine in my collection to try it via an upgrade (a Microsoft Surface Pro 6), and the performance was so bad I ended up going back to Windows 10. Multi-second lag just to get to the program shortcuts is a really bad sign.

    • clanginator@lemmy.world
      3·
      1 year ago

      Strange, I’ve had the opposite experience. I remember early on 11 was really bad and buggy in general so I waited to move my main install, but it’s been fantastic for me on laptop and desktop.

      Granted, I’m very particular about my Windows installs and know how to clean everything up pretty well, so I have no idea how out of box experience compares, but at least with how I use it, 11 has been fantastic, performance has been much more consistent, I don’t need to reboot as often, and it lasted way longer before I felt the need for a fresh install than any of my 10 installations.

      I still have certain things I’m not able to entirely fix that bug me (still searching for a way to remove the stupid Office 365 ad from the settings homepage) that weren’t in Windows 10, but the settings in 11 are overall SO much better, window snapping is way better, explorer is way better, HDR support is way better, multi-monitor support is better, default apps in general are better, it’s becoming easier to remove built-in apps you don’t want, and just a whole bunch of small QOL changes and updated, more consistent styling, it’s just a much nicer OS to use at this point.

      If you haven’t tried it yet, Tiny11 23H2 just came out, and while there’s still some stuff I fixed after installation, it does an excellent job of trimming most of the fat off Win11 without sacrificing usability. You can use Windows update like normal (and you’ll have to update after install) but it may be worth another try if you haven’t tried 11 recently. IMO it’s a really nice upgrade over 10 if you can fix all the little annoyances like the new right-click and such. (BloatyNosy on GitHub is what I use post-install, in addition to a few powershell commands and such)

      • NBJack@reddthat.com
        1·
        1 year ago

        I don’t doubt you cleaned up it up well. But you are the exception rather than the rule for experiencing Windows 11.

        The absolute shitfest that is the incessant integration with Bing and other online only tech is the biggest problem. If you have muscle memory like I do to start button + type keyword for a program + enter, it is unbearably slow to respond at times for the search to catch up. Or my new favorite, getting ready to hit enter, only to have it change the current selection right before.

        And this is to say nothing of the critical settings you can no longer directly control or are just broken. Want to change the power profile of your laptop? Buried. Want to get an estimate on your battery time remaining? Better open the registry. Want to switch your background? Well, roll the dice on that high resolution PNG you just created; unlike 10, 11 fails on some backgrounds of certain filetypes if they’re over a certain size (try a detailed PNG over 3000x4000). Just want a plain old Documents directory that isn’t integrated with OneDrive? Happy hunting; turning it off ain’t enough anymore.

  • Swiggles@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    253·
    1 year ago

    It is just unfortunate that it does not run on Nvidia hardware. The benchmark runs if you disable all RTX features, but it crashes on a new game before you even have full control of the character.

    Looking at protondb it looks like all people with Nvidia have issues since the 2.0 update. I hope there will be some fix soon. I don’t want to replace the GPU yet it would be a waste (2080 Super).

    For now I am playing it on my Steam Deck instead.

    • visnudeva@lemmy.ml
      9·
      1 year ago

      I don’t know what you’re talking about, It run very well on my Nvidia GPU on Linux before and after the patch and DLC.

      • Swiggles@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        81·
        1 year ago

        Create a new character, select corporate start and once the other person enters the room the game crashes just for the easiest 100% reproducible crash. Other people have the same problems and even if they get past that (different game start) it still frequently crashes due to Nvidia driver bugs as far as I understand it.

        If it works so well for you what’s your setup? I heard some older Nvidia cards might work better.

        • cpw@lemmy.ca
          9·
          1 year ago

          Downgrade to the 510 Nvidia driver. Runs absolutely solid on my rtx2080. It should be noted that this crash seems to be quite correlated to the rtx20x0 cards - my speculation is that something about dlss is a bit borked on them since they’re the first dlss 2+ cards. It’s not even exclusively Linux either, reports indicate that there’s some sort of overlay (I blame the call overlay myself) that is tanking fps on windows as well. The 510 driver works great because dlss isn’t available for it as I understand it.

        • visnudeva@lemmy.ml
          2·
          1 year ago

          I never had an issu with this game on steam, my setup is a basic dell gaming laptop with Intel i5CPU and Nvidia GTX 1650 from 3 years ago and my OS is an Arch based distro, Garuda, but I also played on other distros without problems.

            • Zangoose@lemmy.worldEnglish
              2·
              1 year ago

              The 1650 is Turing though. Both 16XX (low end) and 20XX (mid/high end) cards are on Turing architecture

              • Swiggles@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                1·
                1 year ago

                I am starting to believe it just affects the 2000 series of cards then although some of the driver bugs causing crashes should affect all modern Nvidia cards equally.

                I am confused why that’s the case though.

                I looked through protondb again and it looks like all people using 20XX cards cannot play the game. While it looks fine for 30XX with some minor tweaks. For older cards it is a mixed bag, but there are just very few reports overall.

        • hightrix@lemmy.world
          36·
          1 year ago

          I just did this a couple days ago(new game with corpo start) on my brand new system that I just built. No crashes, no issues at all. Using 7950X3D and a 4090.

          Edit: I misread. I’m using windows on this system.

    • potajito@kbin.social
      5·
      1 year ago

      No issues here, more than 20 hours on Linux on a 3080 latest drivers, wayland, , dlss, ray tracing or not, works great.

      • heyoni@lemm.ee
        3·
        1 year ago

        Can you do ray tracing on Linux? I played today a bit and the option was grayed out. I’m on X though, using official drivers.

        • skulbuny@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          3·
          1 year ago

          Yup, you just gotta set the right environment variables. Can’t remember them off the top of my head though, “NVAPI” is part of one of them I think. Don’t have an nvidia gpu anymore, though, switched to AMD about two months back.

          • heyoni@lemm.ee
            1·
            1 year ago

            Just came back to say it freaken worked. Cyberpunk on linux looks and runs just as well as it does on windows. I don’t think I need to dual boot anymore…

            export PROTON_HIDE_NVIDIA_GPU=0
export PROTON_ENABLE_NVAPI=1
export VKD3D_CONFIG="dxr,dxr11"
export PROTON_ENABLE_NGX_UPDATER=1

            In case anyone else is wondering…

  • Mindlight@lemmy.world
    166·
    1 year ago

    It’s a well known fact that every second major release of Windows is crap.

    • Windows 95 was not the best.
    • Windows 95OSR2 was the one you wanted.
    • Windows 98 sucked.
    • Windows 98 2nd ed. worked as the former should have.
    • Windows 2000 was great but had no support for running games.
    • XP solved that and made people leave Windows 98 (I deliberately left out the clusterf… Windows ME.).
    • Windows Vista sucked balls.
    • Windows 7 was what Vista should have been.
    • Windows 8? Metro on phones, yes! On desktop? No no no.
    • Windows 10 got Microsoft back on track again.

    I thought the new upgrade scheme (2 editions per year) Microsoft introduced with Windows 10 would be like “every second release will suck” but it started to look like Microsoft were able to break the curse…

    …and then Windows 11 happened.

    • Heavybell@lemmy.world
      5·
      1 year ago

      I ran 2000 back in the day and didn’t really have any problems with it. IMO it breaks the pattern somewhat. XP was better, of course, but 2000 was a good OS.

      • Mindlight@lemmy.world
        1·
        1 year ago

        W2k was awesome. Great stability. However, the legacy from Windows NT meant that applications had no direct access to hardware which games of that time required.

        That was a showstopper for most users outside the enterprise world.

        • Heavybell@lemmy.world
          1·
          1 year ago

          I am not gonna disagree with you, but I remember playing half-life on it with no problems. Of course, you couldn’t play DOS games on it, if that’s what you mean.

      • Bulletdust@lemmy.world
        1·
        1 year ago

        I still game using Windows 2000 on a Pentium 3 Tualatin based system.

        All my retro games run no problem, Tiberian Sun is the shite.

    • spudwart@spudwart.comEnglish
      5·
      1 year ago

      casusally skipping millenium edition because most people opted to buy windows 2000, the enterprise server os instead.

      Windows 2000 couldn’t run games because it was based on Windows NT and the NT Kernel. ME was still based on DOS. XP frankensteined the NT Kernel and DOS to somehow make the most stable, longest running and best windows ever.

      And 20 years later they’re bleeding marketshare.

      • Aceticon@lemmy.world
        4·
        1 year ago

        Windows 2000 could run games (I should know: I kept being a gamer whilst using it for years) but in the early days with so many games designed for DOS that required direct low level access it was a problem. If I remember it correct one had to boot in DOS mode for those.

        Eventually with DirectX that stopped being a problem (plus, again if I remember it correctly, OpenGL also became compatible with it).

    • systemglitch@lemmy.world
      1·
      1 year ago

      You know what? I never had issues with ME, it actually worked quite well for what I did, which was a lot of gaming.

  • MonkderZweite@feddit.ch
    8·
    1 year ago

    By the way, the “rendering at lower resolution and upscaling” thingy, is there a way to force AMD’s version on any game in Linux? I want to play Satisfactory and got a 5700G, fat iGPU but only 2GB VRAM.

  • lelgenio@lemmy.ml
    8·
    1 year ago

    Hey that’s a similar setup to mine, except I have 6700XT, on ultra settings, worst case scenario I get ~60FPS, on average it’s 80

  • Verdant Banana@lemmy.world
    7·
    1 year ago

    definitely believable

    16gb ddr3 ram

    ten year old i5

    rx580 8gb

    arch linux gnome desktop

    standard prebuilt dell pc

    have two of these machines built and operating in the house both are able to play modern games including Hogwarts Legacy low settings at 60fps no ray tracing

    some games run fine with medium or high

    some games such as Hogwarts Legacy and Marvel’s Spider-Man Remastered require a per game specialized wine wrapper script that is usually already made by an awesome entity unless you go through the steam launcher and then it just plays like a steam deck

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_Deck

    “Steam Deck runs SteamOS version 3, based on the Arch Linux operating system. While SteamOS had been previously developed for Steam Machines using Debian Linux, Valve stated that they wanted to use a rolling upgrade approach for the Deck’s system software, a function Debian was not designed for but was a feature of Arch Linux. An application programming interface (API) specific for the Steam Deck is available to game developers, allowing a game to specify certain settings if it is being run on a Steam Deck compared to a normal computer. Within the Steam storefront, developers can populate a special file depot for their game with lower-resolution textures and other reduced elements to allow their game to perform better on the Steam Deck; Steam automatically detects and downloads the appropriate files for the system (whether on a computer or Steam Deck) when the user installs the game”