The gunmen came from air, sea and land. They shot at civilians, took hostages and forced families to barricade themselves indoors, fearing for their lives.
This has been my main question these few days, the ever hyped and ‘perfect’ Iron Dome. And Mossad, an Intelligence agency considered one of the best in the world. Where did the failure happen?
Don’t get me wrong. This attack was a tragedy. But what happened to the security infrastructure that Israel is so proud of
The dome is pretty great but hamas claims 5k missiles launched and other sources say at least 2k. There’s no way they’re going to intercept them all. As for the intelligence failure, who knows.
I don’t think it’s a conspiracy. It’s the first question my wife asked when I told her about it. Neither of us believe that this could have happened without Mossad knowing about it.
To be fair, it’s possible for an intelligence agency to know of a possible attack, and not have anything done about it, without a conspiracy to let it happen, if issues with communication between parts of said agency or between it and the government as a whole lead to warnings not being properly shared with the right people or not being properly acted upon.
I think the world is full of secret agencies, that are less competent than they claim.
Mossads public image was to neither deny or acknowkledge. It is not hard to imagine, that the world and the mossad itself were misjudging. Hybris is a hell of a problem.
This has been my main question these few days, the ever hyped and ‘perfect’ Iron Dome. And Mossad, an Intelligence agency considered one of the best in the world. Where did the failure happen?
Don’t get me wrong. This attack was a tragedy. But what happened to the security infrastructure that Israel is so proud of
The Iron Dome is there to stop rockets, not cars and paragliders. (The latter could potentially change.)
Any air defense system is vulnerable to saturation.
The best educated, non conspiratorial guess I can offer is that the sheer number of projectiles overwhelmed the system.
That’s accepting that the reports of thousands of rockets launched is accurate, mind you.
The dome is pretty great but hamas claims 5k missiles launched and other sources say at least 2k. There’s no way they’re going to intercept them all. As for the intelligence failure, who knows.
This is my thinking too. Enough were launched to overwhelm the system.
So the system is ineffective.
I don’t think it’s a conspiracy. It’s the first question my wife asked when I told her about it. Neither of us believe that this could have happened without Mossad knowing about it.
You think it is a conspiracy then.
To be fair, it’s possible for an intelligence agency to know of a possible attack, and not have anything done about it, without a conspiracy to let it happen, if issues with communication between parts of said agency or between it and the government as a whole lead to warnings not being properly shared with the right people or not being properly acted upon.
“Bin Laden determined to strike in US.”
I think the world is full of secret agencies, that are less competent than they claim.
Mossads public image was to neither deny or acknowkledge. It is not hard to imagine, that the world and the mossad itself were misjudging. Hybris is a hell of a problem.
I’m just gonna put a tinfoil hat on and guess some of the top secret documents Trump let Saudis / Iranians peruse had relevant Intel to these events
But I’m just guessing
I don’t think you need a tin foil hat, to believe that Trump compromised intelligence on many levels to many people he shouldn’t have…
I would say the agency dealing with homeland terrorism (I guess this is the way Israel looks at this) would rather be Shin Bet than Mossad.