• conundorum@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    57 minutes ago

    At this point, the phrase “David and Goliath” is basically a meme, and there are a lot more people that know a short guy named David fought a giant named Goliath than actually read 1 Samuel. And for that matter, more than know how the fight actually played out.

    Heck, there are a lot of people that probably only know about it from The Simpsons, that episode with the skits that cast the kids as Bible characters and basically parodied the stories they were based on… I think it had Bart as David, probably Nelson or one of the other bullies as Goliath, and Ralph killing one of Goliath’s brothers with a sling and a modern tombstone? That’s probably about as much as a lot of people know about David & Goliath, honestly.

  • Etterra@discuss.online
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    20
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    10 hours ago

    No they don’t. “Christians” don’t read, especially their own handbooks. To the point where if you quote something from the bible that disagrees with their ignorant bullshit they get extra mad.

  • ZeroOne@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    7
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    7 hours ago

    Americans & intelligent are 2 things that should never be used together;<br> I realized that & accepted it

  • BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    32
    ·
    1 day ago

    I stopped reading Reddit entirely save for deshittifying search results, but I braced myself and looked at the conservative subreddit today, and even they think this is quite dumb.

    • ByteJunk@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      11
      ·
      1 day ago

      Hahaha I did the same, I was considering what rock I could turn to find them under and remembered Reddit.

      Can confirm, even they haven’t found a way of spinning this one. Their best shot was justifying this as an attempt of making Trudeau, who’s leaving, to look bad and ease up on the tariffs when the new guy comes in so he looks good and is more eager to work with Trump, but even then they see it as a shot in the foot.

      • BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        1 day ago

        They all seem pretty bewildered by this iteration of the orange rapist from the little bit I looked. I got the feeling that he doesn’t have a lot of support there anymore. Idk I’m not digging around but it’s just a sense I have.

        • BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          1 day ago

          I glanced around old Facebox and mostly saw them yammering about trans people today and pretty quiet on the tariffs. It’s interesting.

          • Theonetheycall1845@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            4
            ·
            16 hours ago

            I made a post on there, first one I’m years, about how whoever voted for Trump can’t fuck right off. My sister texts me “oh dear brother. You’ve unleashed the Maga folks” which happen to be my brother and my other sisters ex-husband. I haven’t even checked my notifications to see what they said. I don’t need to read it. I know it will be ignorance. Anywho, take care of yourself

  • Breve@pawb.social
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    35
    ·
    1 day ago

    Maybe he should blame the guy who last negotiated such a bad trade deal, which would be… checks notes… Donald Trump during his first term! 🤦

  • dantheclamman@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    21
    ·
    1 day ago

    I find the average atheist seems to be more familiar with the messages of the Bible than many of these people who claim to spend their Sundays studying it.

    • explodicle@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      20
      ·
      1 day ago

      Teenage me went into reading the Bible expecting to learn more about my religion and become one of those well-versed scholars.

      And then I kept reading, and the terrible truth eventually dawned on me. It really is just a bunch of silly stories from farmers thousands of years ago. It’s nearly impossible to actually read it and remain neutral about this; yet another one of life’s “emperors new clothes” situations.

      • TurtleSoup@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        7
        ·
        23 hours ago

        The more I read the Bible (having read multiple versions) as a teen the more I realized that people who claim to walk as Christ did, in fact do not walk as Christ did. There are exceptions, such as the pastor who I met volunteering at a soup kitchen, but a vast majority only prove my point.

        Christ walked among sinners, the down and destitute, tax collectors, sex workers and the “unclean”. The same people these self proclaimed men and women of Christ will rebuke and spit on.

        I always think back to that scene from Castlevania between the Bishop and the Demon: “my life’s work is in his name!” “Your life’s work. Makes him puke.”

        • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          5 hours ago

          Yeah but some of the worst Christians are the ones who do walk with the wretches. They come in with their ideas of sin and salvation and don’t bother to notice when they’ve found pockets of paradise among the damned because they’re too busy trying to convert people away from the things they like

      • btaf45@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        1 day ago

        It really is just a bunch of silly stories from farmers thousands of years ago

        Can you imagine how twisted the guy who wrote Revelations was? Why did he just make all that shit up? Why did he try to pass off his own shit as Yahweh’s shit? Since he knew that Revelations was his own made up bullshit, he must have known that the entire bible was made up bullshit too. Why did he think it was okay to be a gigantic liar and for him to contribute to the mountain of bullshit started by others?

        • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          4 hours ago

          A friend who grew up an atheist recently read the Bible as part of her reading a bunch of religious texts. Her take on revelations is that she’s had fever dreams like that.

        • nickiwest@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          8
          ·
          1 day ago

          If you’re actually curious about this, Elaine Pagels has a really great book about this. The book of Revelation was just a thinly-veiled series of jabs at specific people and the politics of the time.

          Her interpretation is that it would have been blatantly obvious to John’s contemporaries, but it’s opaque to us now because we’re so far removed from that time period.

          • SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            23 hours ago

            huh. Interesting.

            so something similar to Dante’s Inferno, which is basically a long shitpost about contemporary politics that over time diffused into religious culture?

            • Taleya@aussie.zone
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              2 minutes ago

              Yup. It’s a big fat rant propaganda against nero. And it worked - our perception of nero has been viewed through that lens for centuries

    • مهما طال الليل@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      12
      ·
      1 day ago

      Out of curiosity I went to one once, I am not Christian and I never believed in the Bible.

      I don’t know if this how all churches do it but the one church I went to read the Bible in a manipulative way. Regardless of the book or its content, you cannot construct a narrative by selecting one or two verses from one book and another one or two verses from another book of the Bible. Sometimes the books aren’t even from the same testament.

      Any book should be read in whole, and any verse has a context that explains it.

      The same technique applied to anything be it a research paper or a comic will produce a false narrative.

      • CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        11
        ·
        edit-2
        1 day ago

        Here’s a fun one: tell a conservative that rich people are doomed to go to hell. If they ask how you figure that, quote:

        It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God

        Without fail their programming will kick in and you will get some lengthy blog post with stupid reasoning about how what Jesus was actually talking about was some rock formation and some other dumb shit. Meanwhile you can just read the verses before and after for context and it’s pretty damn clear what was meant: greed is a form of evil.

        This is the difference between reading the Bible and having it explained to you.

        Another fun one: tell them God prefers atheists to vague believers. Prepare for another programmed blog post about how Jesus was actually referring to the taste of the water at some town that completely ignores the context of the book itself.

      • WagyuSneakers@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        1 day ago

        The point is that whatever verses are picked out agrees with what the pulpit wants to believe. It makes their hate righteous.

      • Dizzy Devil Ducky@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 day ago

        I don’t know about other churches, but the Methodist Church I used to go to with my grandma never had a pastor out of the 2 I witnessed that did stuff like that. Maybe it depends on the region, but I’ve never heard of those type of manipulative strategies where I live, so I’d say I’m pretty lucky on that front. Closest I’ve probably heard of something like that in my area are the Mormons, but that’s a whole nother can of worms that I don’t wanna touch.

        Regardless, that doesn’t sound right or like a very Christian thing to do. Even if the verses tell of similar things, context for those verses are real important, just like with any other readings (religious or otherwise).

        • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          2 hours ago

          It’s also a thing based on denomination. Quakers are unlikely to pull that shit, meanwhile baptists are infamous for it.

  • Stegget@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    22
    ·
    1 day ago

    I always find this imagery amusing. David is touted as this weak shepherd boy who is nearly defenseless in the face of this giant opponent. In reality, you’ve got someone who has trained to sling rocks with deadly accuracy. He’s basically the bronze age equivalent of a sniper, bro can send a 2 inch projectile at mach jesus straight for your dome.

    • Glytch@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      2 hours ago

      Prior to Goliath David was using that sling to defend his flock from wolves. I imagine it’s much harder to bullseye a running wolf than human with acromegaly like Goliath.

    • supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      edit-2
      5 hours ago

      Slings (no NOT slingshots) are actually awesome. It is very fun to learn to throw tennis balls. The average physically active adult can with learn to throw without hurting their bodies at speeds only a fairly professional baseball pitcher could rival with arm alone. The “lever action” you get from the slings length translates to a much slower (angular rotation) and less violent acceleration necessary at the base of the rotation (your body) for a vigorous throw, it doesn’t hurt to throw even fairly heavy things because it is like you have gone to a really low gear on a mountain bike.

      I really like this guy’s paracord slings, might be expensive but you are also basically buying a template and a tool that will last for years and years of throwing.

      https://www.practicalparacord.com/

      https://www.etsy.com/shop/PracticalParacorded?ref=shop-header-name&listing_id=1400323503&from_page=listing#items

      https://youtube.com/@practicalparacord

      Montage of normal people slinging and the crazy variety of body types and throwing styles, I have never seen a sport/throwing implement with such variety of body mechanics, it is clearly in our bones after all, to make a sling simply requires cordage of some kind, time and a pile of rocks!

      https://youtu.be/qVrWk557reU

  • werefreeatlast@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    25
    ·
    edit-2
    1 day ago

    Yeah! Prepare yourselves! You’re going up against Cobra Kai!

    This is your end game and you’re up against Thanos is what I mean!

    You’re like that Mexican “Chapulin Colorado!”

    You’re like those blue people fighting Gargamel and his cat! You’ll never succeed! Never!

    Have you guys ever seen voltron, the thunder cats, robotech, ghost in the shell, the power rangers, you Canadians are just like that going up against all their archnesises! Yeah!

  • Rooty@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    24
    ·
    edit-2
    1 day ago

    You’re assuming that these people give a fuck about Christianity other than as a cudgel for beating people up.

  • acargitz@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    39
    ·
    1 day ago

    Bitch, the “unfair treatment” you are going on about was the one proposed by Trump in 2018.