Anyone looking for an alternative, Revolt is FOSS and pretty much on par with Discord in 2015. They have voice chat and video chat is in development on their roadmap. You can even self-host your own server.
I never got the appeal of discord, but that’s fine.
The use of it as a support for a project? So bad.
Hopefully it will collapse and go away.
I’ve coped long enough, that’s the final straw for me.
I’m cancelling my $3/month subscription and putting $1 to my instance, $1 to Wikipedia, and $1 to the Internet Archive. Not a lot but it’s better than discord.
Doesn’t seem like I can use PayPal for Lemmy and I don’t wanna go through the process of another payment provider :/Patrion supports PayPal
RIP discord.
Back to self-hosted teamspeak then I guess
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Discord is never going to be profitable lmao
It can be a loss leader for microsoft, but at the end of the day, discord will always lose money. The operational cost of discord is way too high
This change just means more enshittification like with every ceo change.
Honestly they should just go full on points shops for spending money on xbox, like steam. Give out points to use for customization. That way they could at least make some incentive to use xbox and probably boost sales.
Oh yeah, we’re about to see things get really shitty on Discord.
Already have embedded ads. I’m about done with this shit and willing to have no one to talk to just so I don’t give discord the satisfaction of using their Spyware.
o7 rip Discord, you wont be missed.
I mean I’ll miss it. Current FOSS options are not up to par
Revolt is pretty good! Most of the features you want from discord are already there. It’s FOSS and servers can be self-hosted.
Revolt has been super dead every time I use it. I can’t get a feel for it because any communities I find with any chatter usually go silent within a month
element isn’t bad tbh. I’ve been using it lately, and it’s actually caught up a lot.
What’s element?
basically foss e2e encrypted discord. https://element.io/
Dope this looks great
It’s also federated, so anyone can run a server and any of your users can join any other servers. I’ve been slowly migrating my discord server over to it
Why do they need my location data?
So it’s instance driven as well then. I’m not quite techie Enough to run my own instance but hopefully I can find a good one for us to jump on. Thanks for the tip. I tried revolt but it just wasn’t quite it and every server I’ve gone to has been a graveyard.
“All right, everybody. I know there’s been a sexism problem here at Discord, and I’m here to change that. If we really work hard and power through, I truly believe that we can work our way up to the kinds of numbers I was able to achieve back at Activision Blizzard.”
I picture him saying this while he hangs a picture up of Bill Cosby in the board room. Yes, that was a thing at Activision/Blizzard. Time to start finding a new platform. Peak enshitification achieved.
So the end of discord is nigh
Problem is people are fucking lazy and will not move to another platform. I want teamspeak and vent back but people nowadays won’t even try. So we are forced to keep using it. People have no balls to stand up to corpos just to learn something new. It’s infuriating.
Uh… You stand up to corpos. Just leave. Nobody is forcing you to use it.
That’s well and good for us, but then we are just the isolated few who do it compared to all our friends that stay with discord because they’re comfortable on it.
Gotta take a stand. There have been a few things where I gotta tell friends that I can’t do this. If they won’t change… Meh. Gotta have principles.
https://matrix.org/ecosystem/bridges/
You can use matrix and still keep in touch with the lazy people. Having a place for people to go when they eventually get fed up will help a ton.
That is sweet
I’m not lazy. i have matrix up and ready to go. the issue is I can’t just force 200+ people to just up and abandon a platform where all their stuff is for one community on that platform.
in order for discord to truly die, it needs a HUGE exodus. as right now, my communities are too well integrated.
basically discord needs the same mass exodus that Xitter had to bsky and the elephant one. its the only hope communities have to survive discord dying.
we’re not being lazy. we’re trying to not have whole online communities get upended when discord finally kicks the bucket. (and it will. soon.)
I foresee it more as discord keeps operating fine but with even more embedded ads and trash, and people will become numb to it. Hence ipad baby generation being clueless with how it used to be with very little ads on the internet and corporations continuing to profit off of us.
Another issue is console integration. I’ve got friends I play with using cross-play (PC-PS5), but the only service we can both use is Discord unless they use multiple devices.
I would love to use Mumble, Matrix or Revolt but it’s the same hurdle.
I miss Ventrilo <3
Vi sitter här i venten och spelar lite dota
Best earworm
I want teamspeak and vent
xFire. God I miss xFire. It was better 10 years ago than any service before or since.
Iirc Yahoo frivolous-lawsuit’ed them out of existence. Q_Q
12 years ago Skype and team speak were the go to for voice chat for gaming. Once someone comes up with a less shitty platform, everyone will start to migrate again.
Problem is people are fucking lazy and will not move to another platform.
It’s not that people are lazy, it’s that a feasible alternative does not exist yet.
the problem is not that there is no feasible alternative, the problem is network effects.
What is wrong with the available programs out there?
None of them come close to doing a single thing better than Discord, or even at the same level as Discord. There simply isn’t an application that realistically competes with any one of Discord’s features yet, let alone the entire suite. Every other platform currently available is either a downgrade in terms of features/functionality, or costs the user money (which immediately makes it prohibitive for 99% of users).
Found the lazy
Okay boys and girls, time to start discussing the next migration. Where we goin’?
revolt chat or matrix?
I could get behind a revolt ;)
Host your own TeamSpeak server.
The client is getting occasional beta release, but nothing for the server in years, although stuff is apparently being worked on. It seems they want to make it function more like Discord.
How about matrix?
I’m looking to check out spacebar at the weekend. Seems they had some DMCA issues a few years back, but it looks as though the repo is still active.
No idea whether the discord integration stuff still works, nor the details around the DMCA (I assume it’s due to the old name being fosscord) but it’s piqued my interest enough to give it a shot.
Failing that, I’ll probably look toward revolt or a matrix + element setup as they seem to be the main suggestions for discord alternatives.
Enshitification applies to EVERYTHING
Linux hasn’t enshittified. Neither has the fediverse. Enshittification applies to everything corporate and for-profit.
Linus dies
welp! pack it up! How’s BSD this time of year?
Originally it was a good descriptor of tech companies starting out as useful and then turning to shit as they leaned into becoming profitable, but if you was to use it as “things get shitty in favor of profits” then I guess it could apply to everything.
I liked the original where it had nuance and was a good shorthand specific to the tech trends.
Words can entshitify? Ahhhh. Everything given enough time will gravitate to its natural state of sucking ass. It’s the you didn’t die when you were the hero scenario all the way down.
As long as we are using enshittification for anything going downhill my word example is lose getting an extra ‘o’ which makes reading ‘I hate it when I loose my keys’ painful. Why the hell is that so common now?
I mean, thats what happened to “literally” hundreds of years ago…
Quit discord last year. Moved my core friend group onto Signal. Video streaming sucks but it addresses most of my other concerns.
Potential alternatives and their issues:
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Guilded: owned by Roblox, faces same data/privacy concerns
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Discourse: backed by venture capital, same as above
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Revolt: slow development, no game streaming, otherwise decent
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Matrix: high technical barrier of entry, but promising.
If you’re looking to kick discord as well:
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For game streaming, try Parsec (with their echo cancellation trick)
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For movie/video streaming, try Hyperbeam.
Thanks for reviewing these for us. I’ve tried some but not all of these.
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I’m already working on a tool to replace discord for my gaming group. Planning on rolling out a stack of open source IM and Voice/Video chat with ActivityPub for text chat rooms.
Integrating them all into one app is where I’ll have trouble, especially since when replacing big corpo tools they need to work perfectly the first time or nobody willvdver want to use it.
Can you provide a list of your stack? Doing the same has crossed my mind but I haven’t done much research yet
I’m still early in the research phases but so far the plan is a combined client for Galene and Mastadon. The current plan is to rip apart the apps as they exist and pull out the chunks useful for my needs, then build a basic webapp to interface with them that I can share with my friends.
Ideally I’d like to eventually roll out a docker image of the server stack as well so anyone can host it with just a couple clicks.
That’s a big project, I respect your ambition
